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Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons--summary of Feinstein Bill, incl. registry requirement
United States Senate ^ | 12/27/2012 | Dianne Feinstein

Posted on 12/27/2012 7:50:24 AM PST by driftdiver

In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises.

Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

-120 specifically-named firearms -Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic -Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

(Excerpt) Read more at feinstein.senate.gov ...


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To: driftdiver

321 posted on 12/29/2012 8:57:46 AM PST by PLD
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To: Candor7; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
Candor 7 wrote:

What is the problem with banning assault weapons?>>>>>

We begin to go down the slippery slope that supposes that guns hurt people in and of themselves. The human component does not count. We single out a class of guns as “evil.” The class then grows to include all guns.

We know how the left works on this issue, we have been fighting them on the issue sionce Kennedy’s Assassination. The 2nd amendment and its case law are pretty well defined.But what few realize is that any bill that does not pass congress to ban assault rifles, the president ( so called) will accomplish via Executive Order. That precedent was established 3 years ago with the EPA, amnesty for illegal aliens, etc.).

The basis for a civil war between Utopian Fascism and Constitution Patriots is now being defined. This battle will not be between North and South, but will be clustered around certain Urban Areas containiing collectives of Utopian Fascists who go after Constitutional patriots with arms.When the Patriots defend themselves according to law, the feds will attempt to arrest such PAtriots. Then the war will be on.

The demographic will follow that delineated by the map pubolished by the News papaers of the locations of those who have right to carry. Then cadres of armed Utopian Fascists will go after them.

We have seen the first stages of what the demographioc will be in our coming Civil War.That map says it all.

Time for a Civil War II ping! About the CWII Ping List The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press or forum. FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII".

Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

322 posted on 12/29/2012 10:55:55 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Candor7; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
Candor 7 wrote:

What is the problem with banning assault weapons?>>>>>

We begin to go down the slippery slope that supposes that guns hurt people in and of themselves. The human component does not count. We single out a class of guns as “evil.” The class then grows to include all guns.

We know how the left works on this issue, we have been fighting them on the issue sionce Kennedy’s Assassination. The 2nd amendment and its case law are pretty well defined.But what few realize is that any bill that does not pass congress to ban assault rifles, the president ( so called) will accomplish via Executive Order. That precedent was established 3 years ago with the EPA, amnesty for illegal aliens, etc.).

The basis for a civil war between Utopian Fascism and Constitution Patriots is now being defined. This battle will not be between North and South, but will be clustered around certain Urban Areas containiing collectives of Utopian Fascists who go after Constitutional patriots with arms.When the Patriots defend themselves according to law, the feds will attempt to arrest such PAtriots. Then the war will be on.

The demographic will follow that delineated by the map pubolished by the News papaers of the locations of those who have right to carry. Then cadres of armed Utopian Fascists will go after them.

We have seen the first stages of what the demographioc will be in our coming Civil War.That map says it all.

Time for a Civil War II ping! About the CWII Ping List The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press or forum. FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII".

Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

323 posted on 12/29/2012 10:56:47 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Candor7; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
Candor 7 wrote:

What is the problem with banning assault weapons?>>>>>

We begin to go down the slippery slope that supposes that guns hurt people in and of themselves. The human component does not count. We single out a class of guns as “evil.” The class then grows to include all guns.

We know how the left works on this issue, we have been fighting them on the issue sionce Kennedy’s Assassination. The 2nd amendment and its case law are pretty well defined.But what few realize is that any bill that does not pass congress to ban assault rifles, the president ( so called) will accomplish via Executive Order. That precedent was established 3 years ago with the EPA, amnesty for illegal aliens, etc.).

The basis for a civil war between Utopian Fascism and Constitution Patriots is now being defined. This battle will not be between North and South, but will be clustered around certain Urban Areas containiing collectives of Utopian Fascists who go after Constitutional patriots with arms.When the Patriots defend themselves according to law, the feds will attempt to arrest such PAtriots. Then the war will be on.

The demographic will follow that delineated by the map pubolished by the News papaers of the locations of those who have right to carry. Then cadres of armed Utopian Fascists will go after them.

We have seen the first stages of what the demographioc will be in our coming Civil War.That map says it all.

Time for a Civil War II ping! About the CWII Ping List The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press or forum. FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII".

Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

324 posted on 12/29/2012 11:00:53 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

Sorry. Some problems with hookup.


325 posted on 12/29/2012 11:03:09 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Purrcival
every breath that wretched POS takes is proof we are a law abiding gun owning citizenry...
326 posted on 12/29/2012 11:27:45 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: JGT

You could be right. But I don’t think so. I think the legislation will not pass. My take is that Boehner has been treated like crap by Obozo and the Obozo media, and will just see that no AWB at all is brought to the floor, just to spite them.

The fiscal cliff thing may ensure that this isn’t even a major topic come Jan 2. If parts of the govt. are not funded, and everyone’s taxes have gone up Joe Sixpack is not going to be available to be led around by the nose to demand AWBs.

In other words, they have overplayed their hand and aren’t gonna get their dream.


327 posted on 12/29/2012 11:27:58 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I believe that was Barbara Boxer who said that, but, as they said on “The Five” the other day, Feinstein, Boxer, same thing, really.


328 posted on 12/29/2012 11:32:35 AM PST by stanne
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To: Jack Black

329 posted on 12/29/2012 12:07:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Purrcival; All

That being said, I am asking a sincere question: What is the problem with banning assault weapons? Why would anyone need them? I’m looking to the gun owners and those who really understand the Second Amendment to educate me, please.

Here is another well spoken example of the argument of “why would anyone NEED them”???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGxU9GQ6M_g

It is not a good quality recording, but the message she delievers is absolutely clear...

Also, notice the smugness of the asshat call Schumer sitting up on his throne...He and many others would love to make us all victims, dependent upon the reactionary forces to protect us from all sorts of threats to our liberties and freedoms, not just our lives, and the lives of our families and countrymen...

I reject every attempt to control us, when they themselves ARE the very threat to our lives, liberty and pursuit of happiness...


330 posted on 12/29/2012 6:26:17 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Jack Black

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52037

“According to my source, there is talk among the highest levels of the uppermost echelon of the Department of Homeland Security, which he describes as effectively under the control of Barack Hussein Obama. During this call, he said that the DHS is actively preparing for massive social unrest inside the United States. He then corrected himself, stating that “a civil war” is the more appropriate term. Certain elements of the government are not only expecting and preparing for it, they are actually facilitating it,” stated my source. (CFP May 8, 2012)


331 posted on 12/29/2012 9:29:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: skinkinthegrass

The last graphic was from an Obama 2008 campaign page:

“Barak Obama won’t take your gun.”


333 posted on 12/30/2012 3:16:22 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Purrcival

Hardcopies of Unintended Consequences are outrageously expensive, it being out of print.

Go exploring around the Internet; you should be able to find a pdf copy.


334 posted on 12/30/2012 4:01:00 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Nowhere Man
I've heard stories where Mi-24 Hinds were shot down by AK-47's back in the 1980's in Afghanistan...

I'm not sure I'd believe that one, unless they actually shot the pilot.

I don't think there was any serious attrition of Soviet helicopter gunships until the Afghans started acquiring Stingers.

335 posted on 12/30/2012 4:04:01 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: driftdiver
I think it was Jefferson who said it best, “You won't need the 2nd amendment until they try and take it away from you.”

If they pass laws to disarm Americans it is a declaration of war against American gun owners.

336 posted on 12/30/2012 6:50:05 AM PST by stockpirate (Mooshell Obama will run for POTUS in 2016.......Obama election fruad won the day.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thank you


337 posted on 12/30/2012 8:27:56 AM PST by Purrcival (Four more years of OBAMA??????????? I hope this country can survive.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I don’t know, the AK round is akin to a .30-30, perhaps it hit something on the Hind that’s vulnerable and that’s what brought it down.


338 posted on 12/30/2012 9:47:02 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: cbkaty
THIS "WILL" GET UGLY........Texas will not submit...period.

Nor Montana. Nor, likely, my home state of Wyoming.

But Montana's Secretary of State Brad Johnson said it very clearly a couple of years back, and there's quite a push to have him run for the state governor's office...or presidency, if it comes to that.

Second Amendment an individual right

The U.S. Supreme Court will soon decide D.C. v. Heller, the first case in more than 60 years in which the court will confront the meaning of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Although Heller is about the constitutionality of the D.C. handgun ban, the court's decision will have an impact far beyond the District ("Promises breached," Op-Ed, Thursday).

The court must decide in Heller whether the Second Amendment secures a right for individuals to keep and bear arms or merely grants states the power to arm their militias, the National Guard. This latter view is called the "collective rights" theory.

A collective rights decision by the court would violate the contract by which Montana entered into statehood, called the Compact With the United States and archived at Article I of the Montana Constitution. When Montana and the United States entered into this bilateral contract in 1889, the U.S. approved the right to bear arms in the Montana Constitution, guaranteeing the right of "any person" to bear arms, clearly an individual right.

There was no assertion in 1889 that the Second Amendment was susceptible to a collective rights interpretation, and the parties to the contract understood the Second Amendment to be consistent with the declared Montana constitutional right of "any person" to bear arms.

As a bedrock principle of law, a contract must be honored so as to give effect to the intent of the contracting parties. A collective rights decision by the court in Heller would invoke an era of unilaterally revisable contracts by violating the statehood contract between the United States and Montana, and many other states

Numerous Montana lawmakers have concurred in a resolution raising this contract-violation issue. It's posted at progunleaders.org. The United States would do well to keep its contractual promise to the states that the Second Amendment secures an individual right now as it did upon execution of the statehood contract.

BRAD JOHNSON

Montana secretary of state

Helena, Mont.

*more*

339 posted on 12/31/2012 8:05:59 PM PST by archy
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