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Walker, Barrett in dead heat in recall showdown, poll says (Putting Perspective on the Polls)
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | May 2, 2012 | Patrick Marley

Posted on 09/10/2012 4:01:15 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Madison - Gov. Scott Walker and Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett are locked in a dead-even race for governor, according to a poll released Wednesday by Marquette University Law School.

The poll also showed Barrett leading his Democratic rivals in Tuesday's primary. The primary winner will face the Republican governor in the June 5 recall election.

(Excerpt) Read more at jsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nervousnellies; polling; polls; scottwalker; tombarrett; wisconsin
Just putting some much needed perspective on the worries about the polls. Most of them WON'T get real until a couple of days before the November election when their reputations are on the line. Right now many are designed to cause defeatism among conservatives. So keep this Wisconsin poll in mind for the proper perspective.
1 posted on 09/10/2012 4:01:21 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

Oh, in case some don’t remember, Walker WON by 7 points.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 4:02:16 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

It does seem that polling companies almost invariably either (a) put the Democrat ahead of the Republican, or (b) declare the race to be a dead heat.

If the polling results were reliable indicators of election outcomes, Democrats would outnumber Republicans in elected positions by about 9 to 1.

I don’t know why this is, other than wishful thinking on the part of the pollsters.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:59 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

To maintain their credibility, the true poll numbers come out closer to the election, a week or so before. We’re splitting atoms. 9% oversampling is spin, hype and designed to dispirit conservative turnout. Ignore the polls, they don’t mean crap. They create ‘news’.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 4:18:58 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Steely Tom

It’s not wishful thinking. The polls are designed either to support a dead heat narrative, or agitprop to dishearten the Republicans and make the Dim’s candidate look like a winner. People tend to back the winners.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 4:20:11 PM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: PJ-Comix

It’s funny how in 24 hrs the election is ‘suddenly over’. Our side really needs to get a back bone. Your example is well taken. I’ll add, EVERY SINGLE election with a ‘surprise’ outcome, whether it’s candidates or issues, ALWAYS ends up advantage republican or conservative. You never hear about a surprise Dem win...unless there’s a strong third party candidate in the mix.

I have NO doubt that when dawn breaks the morning after the election, Tingles Matthews will be swinging from a rope and the mainstream media is going to be scratching their collective heads trying to figure out how Romney could have possibly rolled over Obama like this. Mark my words.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 4:21:37 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: BuckeyeGOP

want to add one other thing.

The news narrative today is the conservatives and republicans are disheartened.

Ummmm Folks....that’s EXACTLY what the plan is. Our side is dancing right into the trap.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 4:24:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks PJ-Comix.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 4:26:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

I agree, this is all about Obama getting ZERO bounce from his Convention. This is all orchestrated by the Dems(Who have already sued Gallop for releasing a poll favoring Romney) the Dems dont have the enthusiasm that the Republicans have so they are trying to level the playing field. They are hoping that just like in 2008, many Republicans will just stay home because they think the election is over. The election is NOT over, just you watch. By the end of October these same pollsters will start releasing polls showing Romney with a 5 point lead, just so that these pollsters can save face and not look like complete morons


9 posted on 09/10/2012 4:29:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PJ-Comix

Remember that when you hear the next BS poll or attempt by the MSM to smear Romney or tell us Obama is way ahead.

And what was it - three days ago? that someone posted a thread here on FR saying that Romney was abandoning Wisconsin because he couldn’t win...


10 posted on 09/10/2012 4:30:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: PJ-Comix

It has to ne remembered that the left wins by subverting and infiltrating organizations. They have done this with reporting, colleges, the government bureaucracies, etc. So why should polling organizations not fall i.to this pattern?


11 posted on 09/10/2012 4:31:16 PM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Also wanted to add another thing, you know is really a shame..I have seen poll after poll showing that the majority of Americans distrust the media, think the media are nothing but Obama kiss assers, think that the media are ALL in the tank for Obama..dont believe a word that comes out of their filthy traps..yet when these polls come out from CNN and others what do people do, believe every single word of it..when it all comes down to it even when people say they dont believe the media they still believe the damn talking screen


12 posted on 09/10/2012 4:31:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BuckeyeGOP
I remember after the 1984 San Francisco convention which nominated Mondull to go up against the Gipper. On the following Friday on Washington Week in Review, Charlie McDowell who was a Democrat partisan despite his cornball appearance was through the roof enthusiastic about how fired up the Democrats were. I sure wish somebody could dig up the video of McDowell acting so happy about the Democrat chances back then. Quite amusing.

Is there someplace to find those transcripts?

13 posted on 09/10/2012 4:32:14 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

Thanks for posting this. My thoughts exactly, remember the recall election? They were shocked that they lost. They thought all along they we going to win. This election is far from over.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 4:33:06 PM PDT by HangingTuff
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To: WMarshal

Does anybody think the 2004 exit polls showing a Kerry landslide were a mistake? They were released for ONE reason: to discourage people from voting for Bush since they wanted to project it as a hopeless cause. Ditto 2000 when Dan Rather “accidentally” claimed Gore won Florida before the conservative Panhandle polls in the Central Time Zone were closed.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 4:36:38 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: HangingTuff; Charles Henrickson
My thoughts exactly, remember the recall election? They were shocked that they lost. They thought all along they we going to win.

Thistle Peterssen is still in a state of shock.

16 posted on 09/10/2012 4:38:22 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

But, but, the nation is different than it was....3 months ago!!!

/standard concern troll reply


17 posted on 09/10/2012 4:50:37 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: PJ-Comix

Just a note on that election. It was a special statewide recall election, so the pollsters really had a devil of a time predicting turnout.

The most motivated voters were the anti-Walker people. However, plenty of pro-Walker people were more than motivated enough to vote, and there obviously were more of them.

OTOH, the press releases and ads from both sides made it clear to those who were paying attention that the internal polls on both sides favored Walker.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 5:17:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: PJ-Comix

FYI Wisconsin freepers

Wisconsin: Biden to visit Eau Claire; Ryan coming to Green Bay
Associated Press
Posted: 09/10/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT
Updated: 09/10/2012 09:52:29 PM CDT

Vice President Joe Biden and Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan plan campaign stops in Wisconsin this week, another sign of the increasing importance being placed on the state and its 10 electoral votes.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Sunday began running his first ads in the state, a move designed to either help win Wisconsin or force President Barack Obama to spend more time and money there.

http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_21507705/eau-claire-joe-biden-visit-thursday


19 posted on 09/11/2012 1:47:26 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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