Posted on 07/31/2012 10:07:05 AM PDT by pinochet
I recently acquired a paper back version of the late Christopher Hitchen's pro-atheist book "God is not Great", printed in 1998 by Hatchette Book Group USA. I do not agree with Hitchen's atheist views, but he has some useful information on the different religions of the world. On page 190-191, Hitchens mentions that the Mormon Prophet, Joseph Smith, saw Prophet Muhammad of Islam as his hero and role model. Smith is quoted as saying: "I shall be to this generation a new Muhammad". He is also quoted as saying "Either the Al-Koran or the Sword".
Of course, the Mormons of today are significantly different from Muslims. Mormons permit us to make fun of their holy prophet, without threatening to cut our heads off. If I decided to burn the book of Mormon, no Mormon Bishop will issue a fatwa, and declare jihad on me.
Perhaps the problem with Islam is not with the religion, but the fact that Arabs were a backward barbarian culture before and after they became Muslims. Arabs were a violent and war-like people before they became Muslims, and they killed each other off in large numbers. That makes them similar to war-like tribes like the Apache Indians of America, and the Vikings of Northern Europe. Islam simply became an excuse for Arabs to wage war on non-Arabs. America should focus more on trying to civilize Arab culture, rather than get rid of Islam.
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.
They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.
They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.
I was thinking the same thing.
My personal experience is that the Mormons I’ve known and worked with and had as neighbors were uniformly good people.
And the Muslims that I’ve known and worked with were insular, aloof, and suspicious.
It’s an interesting question, but...
I also think there is something inherent in the religions, independent of culture/civilization.
As evidence, I’d note that after the fall of Rome, Europe was invaded by barbarians, a tribal society also. Converting to Christianity was a key part of them becoming “civilized.”
ME tribes converting to Islam became unified; the question is whether this had any effect on them becoming ‘civilized’ in the definition used here.
Islam isn’t a religion.
Smokey backroom or chat???
The two religions are in no way linked. Your post is absolute bunk and anti-Mormon propaganda.
And, no, I’m not a Mormon or Mitt-bott.
I can’t possibly imagine using Hitchins as a source of illumination for any purpose involving religion.
Have you read page 190-191 of the paperback version of Hitchen’s book?
Yep, that’s what I would do if I wanted to know more about a religion,
I would seek knowledge from an atheist. (NOT)
AS much as I dislike the mormon religion, Hitchens is full of crap. J. Smith was an illiterate con man with no foreign exposure or knowledge. To suggest he was even aware of who Muhammad was is Hitchens way of smearing. He has no source material for this supposed quotation. The truth is Chris Hitchens hated God and all religion so he found it easy to just write whatever he wanted.
There are enough reasons to disbelieve the tales of the ‘prophet’, this aint one of them
Yup that has been my experience too. I do not agree with any of their theology but they live their lives in a good manner
Will you be making phone calls for the Obama campaign?
That’s why Mormon women can’t get into the best heaven unless their husband calls their secret name.
They just hope their husband isn’t mad at them and remembers the correct secret temple name.
Is there a way we can work the Illuminati into this too so it can become even more nutty???
Islam is also a political system in conflict with our Constitution.
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