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Obama To Sign Anti-Second Amendment U.N. Anti-Gun Treaty
Investors Business Daily ^ | 7-9-2012 | Investors Business Daily

Posted on 07/10/2012 1:47:25 PM PDT by no-llmd

The United Nations is putting the finishing touches on an Arms Trade Treaty that transcends borders and may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms. Every indication is that the president will sign it.

Like the New Start and Law of the Sea treaties before it, as well as the Kyoto Protocol and Agenda 21, the Arms Trade Treaty being finalized at the U.N. this month is one of those feel-good, can't-we-all-get-along pieces of parchment whose net effect is to accomplish little except to eat away at American sovereignty and freedom.

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To: SoFloFreeper
> 2/3 of the Senate has to approve the treaty, and that isn’t going to happen.

I used to think that way too, until Roberts upheld ObamaCare as constitutional ...

41 posted on 07/10/2012 3:57:12 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Thank you for mentioning that little gem.


42 posted on 07/10/2012 4:16:23 PM PDT by Postman (US out of the UN. UN out of the US.)
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To: no-llmd

If King Barack tries to enforce this, we will find out where the loyalties of our military and police lie: with the Constitution and the Republic, or with the King.

Part of me dreads such a thing; but another part of me thinks it will be better to have the truth out in the open for all to see.


43 posted on 07/10/2012 4:20:44 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: no-llmd

Can’t wait, let’s get it started. 1,000 more rounds coming in this week. Over 500 rounds in loaded mags will be on standby. That’s just one firearm.


44 posted on 07/10/2012 4:45:31 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: jrd; BenLurkin

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


45 posted on 07/10/2012 4:48:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Gritty

I wouldn’t want that bet. The unfortunate reality is, however, 2/3 of Senators present. That said, I doubt it will happen and hope it won’t because I’m too old and tired to get involved in any more wars. Trite current tagline still holds.


46 posted on 07/10/2012 4:57:51 PM PDT by Postman (US out of the UN. UN out of the US.)
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To: okie01; Gritty
Not so. To ratify a treaty, the Constitution requires 2/3 approval by the full Senate -- i.e., 67 votes.

Gritty is correct. There is a big difference between 2/3 of the full membership of the senate and 2/3 of the senators present. The US Constitution specifically says in Article II that only 2/3 of the senators present are necessary to ratify a treaty:

He [the president] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

This means that 67 votes are not required to ratify a treaty unless the full senate is present at the vote. The minimum quorum of senators necessary to do business is 51 senators and therefore, the minimum number of senators necessary to ratify a treaty is 34 senators while 67 senators is the largest possible number of senators needed to ratify a treaty.

47 posted on 07/10/2012 5:20:08 PM PDT by old republic
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To: old republic

I stand corrected.


48 posted on 07/10/2012 5:37:11 PM PDT by okie01 (+64)
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To: okie01
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
49 posted on 07/10/2012 6:00:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: okie01

>> Not so. To ratify a treaty, the Constitution requires 2/3 approval by the full Senate — i.e., 67 votes.

I’m under the impression a number of RINOs in the Senate are amenable to this charade.


50 posted on 07/10/2012 6:03:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Eva

All treaties must be approved by the Senate with a 60% super majority vote or the treaties are meaningless,


You mean like how King Barack granting amnesty to illegals is meaningless because Congress didn’t approve it? The King don’t need no stinkin Congress.


51 posted on 07/10/2012 6:36:16 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I like your photo so much I’ve apprehended it. Hope you don’t mind. If FReeperville had avatars I paste that one in right now. Hmm all my rifles and hand guns just disappeared. I wonder where they went.


52 posted on 07/10/2012 7:24:54 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: no-llmd

FUBO

53 posted on 07/10/2012 7:36:29 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Gritty

>>This is a genuine line in the sand for many<<

Maybe the faster it breaks, the faster it can be fixed.
Could get pretty ugly for a spell though.
Just sayin.


54 posted on 07/10/2012 7:37:24 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: no-llmd

It’s a treaty, so it needs two-thirds of the Senate to vote for it before it can become law. The Liberal Messiah’s blessing is not enough. Right now, it’s still merely a proposal.


55 posted on 07/10/2012 8:55:33 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: MrB

I heard it was called “Operation: Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammuntion.”


56 posted on 07/11/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: no-llmd

“may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms.”
I guess this will go before the SCOTUS.


57 posted on 07/11/2012 11:18:16 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: DMG2FUN
“may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms.”

I guess this will go before the SCOTUS.

SCOTUS no longer upholds the Constitution by enforcing its limits on government power. It upholds what government wants to do. If our elected dictator signs it, and a suit it brought before SCOTUS, the court will side with the elected dictator.

"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." - Justice John Roberts June 2012

58 posted on 07/11/2012 12:05:16 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: TurboZamboni

Nice gif but what will you do when they equip all our boys, girls and confused with those baby blue brain buckets?


59 posted on 07/11/2012 7:26:36 PM PDT by Kudsman (Repeal the 17th, restore the Republic.)
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