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Newborn Seized in Hospital by Police, Social Worker
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | March 27, 2012 | Michael P. Farris, Esq.

Posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sopater

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To: al_c; onedoug

It appears that a lawsuit is pending...

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/pennsylvania/pamdce/1:2012cv00442/88588/


21 posted on 03/28/2012 8:32:24 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: al_c

True, but does that stop the abuse? No, only criminal action against the parties will stop this. How about theft, unlawful possession of stolen property, conspiracy to commit a felony, making false statements, etc. Get the parties perpetrating these atrocities and throw their a$$ess in jail.

We need to do the same to the criminals in Versailles on the Potomac.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 8:33:38 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: al_c

True, but does that stop the abuse? No, only criminal action against the parties will stop this. How about theft, unlawful possession of stolen property, conspiracy to commit a felony, making false statements, etc. Get the parties perpetrating these atrocities and throw their a$$es in jail.

We need to do the same to the criminals in Versailles on the Potomac.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 8:33:56 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: al_c

True, but does that stop the abuse? No, only criminal action against the parties will stop this. How about theft, unlawful possession of stolen property, conspiracy to commit a felony, making false statements, etc. Get the parties perpetrating these atrocities and throw their a$$es in jail.

We need to do the same to the criminals in Versailles on the Potomac.


24 posted on 03/28/2012 8:34:09 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Sopater

A similar thing happened to an acquaintance of mine. She occasionally posts here but I’m not going to ask her to dredge it up, it’s likely still a sore memory to press.

It was about 20 years ago so the details are hazy to me, but I am sure she had no criminal record, no history of child abuse, yet the hospital attempted to separate her from the child, telling her she could leave but the baby had to stay, and on the records I saw there was a notation about either “potential child abuse” or “possible child abuse.” She had never used drugs, nor was there any indication whatsoever of medical issues for her or the baby, who had an APGAR of 9 and weighed eight-something. Why they chose to try to take the baby from her was never determined, but she and I both concluded it was because they could. She had no financial resources, although her doctor bills had been prepaid; she appeared to be destitute and without any means to defend herself from such an action. Also, a retired nurse told me at the time that a healthy white newborn was worth the low legal risk to CPS to obtain (or words to that effect). Since then I have been very opposed to all “child protective services.”

The story had a happy ending because she wasn’t quite as friendless and defenseless as she appeared. They had second thoughts and backed off.

File it under “this could happen to you.” Odds are it won’t, but yes it can.


25 posted on 03/28/2012 8:36:23 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: saganite; submarinerswife

Yes, please elaborate.


26 posted on 03/28/2012 8:37:08 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

Are you freaking kidding me.? Thnk Gd for the HSLDF. I cannot believe what happened to this couple. Where are our freedoms? Sometimes I despise government.

I tried with all my might, on drugs and no sleep, to refuse the Vit k shot for my baby but the pediatrician wore me out promising she would die. I hate them. I really do. They drove me to give in, against my wishes, alone and in a compromised state. They do this routinely.

And a Goodie Lady came in when I was alone and equally out of it, drugged, sleep deprived. She told me of these wonderful magical yummy foods my baby and I could have if I signed up now. There was no mention of programs or taxpayers, just basically Get Goodies, Sign Here. Obviously WIC which I wasn’t eligible for. Didn’t sign but was incensed that my tax dollars were obviously going to anyone being coerced into signing. How many women aren’t eligible but receive this? How many are illegally here?

We may need right wing hospitals...


27 posted on 03/28/2012 8:37:15 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - our sole chance to stop the Rominee)
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To: al_c

True, but does that stop the abuse? No, only criminal action against the parties will stop this. How about theft, unlawful possession of stolen property, conspiracy to commit a felony, making false statements, etc. Get the parties perpetrating these atrocities and throw their a$$es in jail.

We need to do the same to the criminals in Versailles on the Potomac.


28 posted on 03/28/2012 8:38:21 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Sopater
When they started to give Jodi an injection, she asked what it was and what it was for. They gave her vague answers like, “It’s just to help.” Only after giving her the injection of oxytocin did they tell her what it was and then asked, “You aren’t allergic to that are you?”

This paragraph alone contains enough for malpractice charges. She could also charge the staff with kidnapping and blackmail for the rest. I hope they sue that hospital into oblivion.
29 posted on 03/28/2012 8:40:02 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: heartwood

I agree. Something is missing. Story doesn’t make sense as it is told here.


30 posted on 03/28/2012 8:41:00 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Heart of Georgia

These vaccines really bother me. When I ask for info from the doctors/nurses on the vaccine, they just basically tell me that the risk is low and that the vaccines are good. When I ask if they are really necessary and what is the likelihood that they will “need” the vaccine, I don’t get any real answers. However, when you look for info from other sources, you get extreme views on the other side of the debate. All I want to do is determine what really makes sense for my family and not give unnecessary vaccines, nor neglect to get the ones that really do make sense.... It’s all very frustrating.


31 posted on 03/28/2012 8:41:45 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: HOYA97

After reading that link, I think you may have two different stories confused with each other.


32 posted on 03/28/2012 8:42:53 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: submarinerswife

Can you point me to some more information on this story?


33 posted on 03/28/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: submarinerswife

like several other posters, I’m not seeing any background to this story that you seem to have. so please tell us the information you have.


34 posted on 03/28/2012 8:46:46 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: CodeToad
The mother didn’t assert her rights and basically allowed the social worker to do what she did. Under the law, all she had to do was tell the hospital that the social worker was no longer authorized access to her or her medical records.

Words fail me.

Social workers cannot take an baby but must get a court order.

You make that sound difficult. It is not.

I have never seen a social worker target a mother for no reason.

I have.

They simply do not have the authority.

You must live in a house of pure silk.

35 posted on 03/28/2012 8:47:20 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: HOYA97

You’re confused as I was after reading that article you linked. The end of the article mentions a separate case.


36 posted on 03/28/2012 8:48:15 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: the invisib1e hand
Somebody told me a long time ago that medical people think they’re “minor deities.” Time has proven him to have underestimated their hubris. They are omniscient, effectively omnipotent, and to done obeisance to.

And they are not afraid to let you know about it, too. I was in the ER last fall because my throat tried to close up and I could barely get any air at all. The ER doc spent 20 minutes screaming at me for not answering her questions fast enough, then she took my oxygen away and stormed out. I was fighting for every breath, I couldn't even make a sound!!!! I still think I should charge her for malpractice but I don't know how to start the process.
37 posted on 03/28/2012 8:50:04 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Sopater

Just wait until the hospitals are filled with TSA type thugs................


38 posted on 03/28/2012 8:50:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: Sopater
I'm *absolutely* no expert on the intricacies of OB/Newborn medicine but I know something about hospital administration in general,having worked in a large hospital for 20+ years (strictly with adults).Hospitals have many,*many* requirements they must fulfill when treating a patient.Some of the requirements are strictly "medical",others are legal,and still others are related to "malpractice".My understanding is that there are even more procedures,"medical" *and* "legal" that are followed with newborns...both for the well being of the mother *and* the baby (remember,there are *two* patients involved).

Perhaps a consultation with a malpractice lawyer might be called for.He/she would very probably be aware of all the legal and medical issue regarding newborns and can tell you what,if anything,the hospital did that was improper or illegal.

39 posted on 03/28/2012 8:51:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Sopater

This could make your decision easier: http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf

It is a chart of vaccines that use aborted baby tissues. More info is at the main website: cogforlife.org

The process used to obtain these tissues is the same process used by Pepsi to do their taste testing. Many here are enraged at what Pepsi and other food manufacturers are doing, but yet the completely ignore what they are injecting into their and their children’s bodies.


40 posted on 03/28/2012 8:51:36 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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