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Newborn Seized in Hospital by Police, Social Worker
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | March 27, 2012 | Michael P. Farris, Esq.

Posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sopater

I am not content to sit on the sidelines while the government gradually usurps the very essence of parental rights. I hope you share my determination. We need to stand with people like Scott and Jodi Ferris (obviously no relation to someone named Farris). Here’s their story:

Jodi went into labor a bit earlier than she had expected—and the baby was coming rapidly. Given their location and other factors, the midwife they had hoped would deliver the baby at their home encouraged them to get in an ambulance and head to the hospital.

Their baby, whom I will call “Annie,” was born in the ambulance in the parking lot of the Hershey Medical Center—a government hospital in Pennsylvania. Hospital personnel arrived very quickly and took charge of both baby and mom.

As any mother would do, Jodi immediately began to ask the nurses and attendants how her baby was doing. The hospital staff was utterly unresponsive. When they started to give Jodi an injection, she asked what it was and what it was for. They gave her vague answers like, “It’s just to help.” Only after giving her the injection of oxytocin did they tell her what it was and then asked, “You aren’t allergic to that are you?”

Jodi persisted in asking about Annie. No one would tell her anything other than “she’s in good hands and you’ll be able to see her soon.”

Eventually a doctor told her that Annie scored a 9 on a physical exam applied to newborns known as the APGAR test. A score of 8 or higher is considered healthy. (It is unclear when the score was given since she was in the ambulance at birth.) But shortly after this a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was “very sick” and would need to stay in the hospital. This doctor’s comments were accompanied by an explanation of his disdain for midwives saying, “Too many people think they know what they’re doing.”

About an hour later, another hospital staffer finally brought Annie to Jodi and said, “The baby is doing good. She will be able to go home in no time.”

Legal Requirements?

However, several hours later yet another staffer told Scott and Jodi that Annie would have to stay in the hospital for 48 to 72 hours for observation. Even though they persisted in asking why Annie would need to stay, his only answer was that “the law requires us to keep the baby for 48 hours.” When they asked for a reference to this supposed law, he answered, “you’ll have to get that from risk management.” (By the way, there is no such law in Pennsylvania.)

The risk management staffer eventually told them that even though they saw nothing wrong with the baby, they just like “to keep babies like this” for 48–72 hours. The Ferrises were told that Annie would not be released for this period since it was “unsafe for her to leave the hospital.”

Eventually, a risk management staffer admitted that the risk that was being managed was not the health of Annie but the risk that the hospital might get sued if something went wrong after she was discharged.

Ultimately, risk management said that they would be satisfied with a 24-hour stay and that Jodi and Scott could remain with the baby overnight.

You have been Accused

Late in the afternoon, a government social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy came into Jodi’s room announcing that she was there to conduct an investigation. Jodi asked to know the allegations. The social worker claimed that it would be against the law for her to show Jodi the allegations.

Jodi replied that she would not be comfortable answering the questions if she couldn’t know the allegations. Immediately the social worker proclaimed, “Since you’re not going to cooperate, I’ll just go and call the police and we can take custody of the baby.”

Fearing that the social worker would carry out her threat, Jodi replied that she was willing to cooperate.

The social worker soon intimated that the issue was Jodi’s refusal to consent to medical treatment for the baby. Jodi replied that she had no idea why anyone would say that. The social worker claimed that she had refused to allow a Vitamin K shot for Annie. Jodi replied that no one had asked her about such a shot. Moreover, she had overheard hospital staffers saying that they had already given Annie such a shot.

Neither the social worker nor any hospital staffer ever gave Jodi or Scott any example of any medically necessary treatment that they had refused for Annie.

At this point, Scott left the hospital to tend to their older children who were staying with friends.

Ordering Tests

Shortly after this, the hospital asked to check Annie’s white blood cell count and to perform a strep test. Jodi agreed to the testing.

Then the hospital demanded that they give Annie shot for Hepatitis B. Jodi said that she would agree only if they tested her or Annie to see if either of them were positive. If so, then she was quite willing to have the shot for Annie. The hospital claimed that they had forgotten about this earlier when it was still possible to test that day, and that they needed to give the shot anyway without any testing.

When the social worker pressed her to make an immediate decision about this shot, Jodi asked her if they could simply wait until Scott got back before they decided.

Put yourself in Jodi’s shoes at this moment. You gave birth that morning in an ambulance. The hospital has made wild and conflicting claims about your baby’s health all day long. You are exhausted. You are in pain. Your husband has gone to check on your children. And a social worker who has threatened to take your baby into police custody is standing in your hospital room demanding that you make an immediate decision.

Jodi simply said, “Please can’t this wait until my husband gets back.”

The social worker renewed her threat. If Jodi would not answer her question right then, she would call the police. And then the social worker started adding conditions. She and Scott would have to agree to sign a safety plan before she could conclude her investigation.

Jodi said that she wanted her husband and an attorney to look at the plan. She felt she was in no position to read such a document and really understand what she was being pressured to sign.

Thrown Out

And then the story turns ugly.

The social worker left the room and called the police. Without a court order they took custody of Annie, immediately claiming that she was suffering from illness or injury—a patently false claim.

The social worker consented to the administration of the Hepatitis B shot even though no blood test had been done.

The police made Jodi Ferris get up out of her hospital bed and escorted her to the entrance—they were expelling her from the hospital because she had not signed the “safety plan.”

Scott met her at the entrance to the hospital. The police escorted them both off of the grounds of the hospital.

Jodi was told that she would be allowed to return every three hours to nurse the baby through the night.

Jodi and Scott were forced to spend the night that she had given birth in their car in the parking lot of a nearby Wal-Mart. You read that right. They kicked this mother out of the hospital, and in order to be close enough to feed her child, she had to sleep in the car.

To add insult to injury, Jodi was given access to Annie only sporadically and not every three hours.

Baby Returned

The next morning a judicial officer held a shelter care hearing. After hearing the evidence, the officer immediately returned custody of Annie to her parents.

No parents should be put through this kind of ordeal. It is not a crime to ask questions about the well-being of your child. It is not a crime to ask for testing to ensure that a procedure is needed before it is done. It is not a crime to be a protective mom.

It is a moral offense of the highest order to kick a mother out of a hospital and to seize her child on the day of her birth simply because a mom wanted to have her husband read a legal document before she signed.

Both the medical personnel and the social worker engaged in outrageous behavior toward this family.

And we believe that they violated their rights under the Constitution of the United States. And we are going to court to prove it.

Why is HSLDA fighting for parental rights in this context? It is not a homeschooling case.

Parental Rights at Risk

We are taking this case because we are tired of seeing the erosion of parental rights in virtually every area of life. Parental rights in medical cases have an impact on broader parental rights, including educational decisions.

And the plain fact is this: If we don’t fight for parental rights, it is probable that our rights will be eroded bit by bit until there is nothing that remains.

We cannot afford to fund cases like this out of HSLDA’s membership dues. We are taking this case because we believe that our members and friends will stand with Jodi and Scott Ferris. We believe that parents should not be punished by “over-the-top” social workers and doctors.

The social worker’s priority was not the welfare of Annie, but her own convenience and her own perception of her power. She was aiming to teach this homeschooling mother a lesson.

And the hospital was clearly not concerned that Annie had a medical issue—they were just trying to avoid being sued for medical malpractice.

When government workers run over parents in cases like this, the lesson that needs to be taught is to the government.

This case will cost tens of thousands of dollars. Your tax-deductible gifts to the Homeschool Freedom Fund of the Home School Foundation will make it possible for us to take this case to court and to try to establish a precedent that will help protect us all.

All of our families are at risk when the government is allowed to run over one of us. When we stand together, we can fight back for freedom and for truth.

Thanks for giving as the Lord leads you. And pray for us. This is not an easy case. We really need your ongoing prayers.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: parentalrights; parents
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We experienced something very similar to this recently when we had our baby. Medical staff often just do what they think that they need to do, and just don't answer questions that they are not comfortable answering. Questioning what they do is seen as challenging them and they don't take kindly to it.

We were also asked a series of very personal questions when we were being "interviewed" for the baby's SSN application. When we were asked what these questions had to do with acquiring a SSN, we were told that they were simply required to ask those questions. We respectfully refused to answer and told the lady that if her managers had a problem with that to have them come see us personally.

Often, the people who give the medications/treatments, confiscate babies/children, etc. are just following orders and if you question them, they don't know what to say other than it's our policy or the rules. It can be very intimidating for all involved.

Parents need to know their rights and challenge all gov't and hospital staff who think that they have some kind of special right to just carry on without your permission.

1 posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:13 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

It’s about good and evil. Our side approves of individual freedom. The “progressive” side believes that government will make all decisions for us better than we would make them ourselves. I’m not sure whether the next step for the other side is government-mandated exercise plans or government-mandated diets, but I expect one of the two “for the public good” if ObamaCare is not overturned.

2 posted on 03/28/2012 8:00:28 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Sopater
Once again, it boggles the mind that so many people are enamored of bureaucrats running our lives. Most "social workers" are barely qualified to flush a toilet.


3 posted on 03/28/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: Sopater

I hope they sue the pants off of that hospital, the doctor, the case worker, and the nurses. Pathetic.

4 posted on 03/28/2012 8:01:32 AM PDT by al_c (
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To: Sopater

I’ve never heard of anything so outrageous! Prayers for this family.

5 posted on 03/28/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Sopater

There is so much more to this story than the “victimized” mother’s claims.

6 posted on 03/28/2012 8:05:42 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Sopater
, a government social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy

Well ... there's your problem, right there.

Several of them, in fact, all wrapped up in one neat little phrase.

7 posted on 03/28/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sopater

Will get much worse with Obamacare. This will be similar to a Twilight Zone Episode on youtube at URL

8 posted on 03/28/2012 8:10:32 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Sopater

This is really vague. I’m a nurse, although not maternity.

When I had my babies, I asked questions, kicked out medical students, refused IVs, insisted on some other things, left early with one of the babies, broke rules about when my husband could stay with me, refused hepatitis shots, accepted the Vit K, refused to have them bottle feed my baby, told a nurse who was asking me about my post-natal contraception plans that she was being intrusive, and generally behaved like an assertive PIA princess. Which is not princess in the “fluff my pillow” sense.

If you hear maternity nurses talking behind their patients’ backs, some of them can be the bitchiest women you would ever meet, and any patient who wants things her way at one of life’s most transformative events is a princess. Some ob-gyns have that attitude too but I digress.

I never ran into anything like what you’re talking about - which is not to say it didn’t happen - but what exactly did happen? I can’t help but feel there must have been some particular trigger that got their panties in a twist.

9 posted on 03/28/2012 8:12:36 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Pollster1
The “progressive” side believes that government will make all decisions for us better than we would make them ourselves.

It wouldn't even matter if that were true. Your decisions belong to you; they're your property. Stealing your decisions from you is worse than stealing your money. Every dollar bill is like every other dollar bill; if someone steals your money you can go and get more. If they steal your decisions, those particular decisions are gone forever. If people go to jail for stealing your money, they should swing for stealing your decisions.

10 posted on 03/28/2012 8:16:19 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sopater

Somebody told me a long time ago that medical people think they’re “minor deities.” Time has proven him to have underestimated their hubris. They are omniscient, effectively omnipotent, and to done obeisance to.

11 posted on 03/28/2012 8:17:34 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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To: al_c

Hep B vaccination is a preventative measure, so that part doesn’t sound right to me. My new grand-baby got hep B vaccine at birth and will complete the series at specific intervals.

12 posted on 03/28/2012 8:17:53 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Sopater

The mother didn’t assert her rights and basically allowed the social worker to do what she did. Under the law, all she had to do was tell the hospital that the social worker was no longer authorized access to her or her medical records. Also, if the mother had called for a Code Pink that hospital would have been locked down tight and the social worker arrested.

Social workers cannot take an baby but must get a court order.

Also, this story is missing some facts. I have never seen a social worker target a mother for no reason. They simply do not have the authority.

13 posted on 03/28/2012 8:19:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Sopater

If there is any truth in this story, then the problem is not so much the health care workers who were involved, but the damned tort lawyers.

The hospital refused to let the baby go early precisely because it would open them up to huge lawsuits if anything went wrong.

That, in turn, is because the ambulance chasing lawyers are in bed with the politicians, especially Dem politicians.

So, now, ironically, what is happening? The hospital is being sued. Yes, they probably behaved stupidly, but it’s a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t, with these lawyers and politicians.

14 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sopater

Sue the crap out of ‘em.

15 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: submarinerswife

Elaborate please.

16 posted on 03/28/2012 8:22:10 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Sopater

Social of the most insidious of all government agencies. And one of the only government agency’s where they proudly and loudly proclaim to anyone who gets tangled up with them, to prove themselves innocent instead of the them (government agency) proving you guilty.

17 posted on 03/28/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by ebersole
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To: Sopater
What is not reported here and is just as troubling is that about two months later two other social service workers, Rhonda Cash and Jenna Cramer, arrived unannounced at the Ferris's home. The social workers explained that it was an emergency because social workers decided it was an emergency at that point.

Retribution anyone??

Click here for the story

18 posted on 03/28/2012 8:26:07 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Prospero

Social workers have the lowest standardized test scores of any major - even lower than kindergarten teachers and other education majors.

Combine a room temperature IQ with the hard left indoctrination that constitutes the “curriculum” in “schools of social work”, add lots of power over others, and you get stupidity, evil, and resentment run amok.

19 posted on 03/28/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: submarinerswife
"There is so much more to this story than the “victimized” mother’s claims."

You could be right and obviously you know what that "so much more" is. Lay it on us, submarinerswife.

20 posted on 03/28/2012 8:29:35 AM PDT by davisfh
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