Posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sopater
So MMR is on the list with no alternatives? Gov’t Schools require MMR vaccines for attendence.
I don’t remember all the questions, but they were asking us number of siblings they had at home, my income, our ages and level of education, etc...
We basically said “what does that have to do with the SSN application? That’s none of your business”.
... They said that the gov’t needed that information and that they use it for tracking and trending and setting policy.
It’s all strictly confidential, of course.
So do cyber charter schools, and there's nothing to attend!
They LIE! And you should too!
1984.
Period.
I’m interested in why you put “victimized” in quotes. Do you have a link to more info?
You can opt out of vaccines with gubmint schools. You just have to fill out a form stating religious reasons.
I am married to an LCSW that was the case manager for the ICU/NICU at a major hospital. She was also an Adult Protective and Child Protective worker. She is currently the Psychosocial director for 30+ facilities. I was a trusted adviser to DHS/DPHE/HCPF for over 10 years. I wrote many of the systems used within those programs. Dad was the chief of medical for the Air Force and my brother is a Colonel with NHS. I know exactly what I am talking about. You idiots and your conspiracy theories are always full of crap. There is always a story you don’t tell when these stories are told, such as prior contact with social services. I’ve heard countless stories of such persons claiming all kinds of wild things. They even do so in court. It never ceased to amaze the wife when she had to go to court and hear their wild accusations. They claim they are the innocent victim only to discover their story leaves out important details.
Lovely credentials, but since you’ve called me an idiot I will ignore you rather than engage in one-sided civility.
Hospital staff cannot “take custody”. In fact some babies have died because a parent refused treatment. Anyone can petition a court for emergency protective orders but hospitals cannot take charge over a life. Being in a hospital doesn’t change the law. A doctor or other hospital staff cannot simply take you over your will, not outside a hospital and not in it, either. Mental health holds when you are a danger to yourself or others still requires follow up through the legal process.
Not to mention the financial issues as to why police,county, and medical staff refuse to even issue holds: Money. Once they take custody using the mental health statutes they pay the costs. They don’t either have the money or don’t want to spend it.
“Do not answer truthfully when a doctor asks if you own guns”
I had a doctor a few years ago ask that question. I immediately stood up and said, “And with that, you lose me as a patient. Practice your politics on someone else.”
My babies were NOT allowed to leave my room unless my husband accompanied them. I always left as soon as possible. A healthy woman who just gave birth is not “ill”. I hated being told what I was “allowed” to do by a bunch of snotty women. I just did what I wanted anyway. I’ve rarely had nice nurses during my six hospital stays.
Heinlein had a great quote - he said something like if you can’t stay out of the system, counfound it with BS.
Income? 85M/yr
Occupation? Spy
Residence? Which one?
“Hospital staff cannot “take custody”.”
Not exactly true - when a nurse or other staffer picks up the child, they, in a very real sense, “take custody” of that newborn. When they then take that child out of the mother’s presence and view, they DEFINATELY have “taken custody”.
No, they are not the legal guardian - which is what I think you meant - but they HAVE taken custody of the child.
The nurses threw fits when they saw me eating and drinking water. I used the Julie Tupler method of labor and delivery prep, a method that encourages moms to prepare physically for labor. The example she gives is that one does not simply go run a marathon, one must train for many months to be prepared to run the long distance. Although my firt l&d was precipitous (68 minutes), my second was six hours. I had my first out in four pushes and my second out in six pushes. The nurses kept telling me to tuck my chin to curl up to push and I refused and did my own thing. The doc was pissed when I refused an epesiotomy (sp?). Guess what. Turns out I didn’t need one. She was also a pusher. My husband had to pull her aside and tell her to quit telling me I needed an epidural. After everything was said and done, nurses and doc told me that my deliveries were so easy and pleasant. I told them about the Tupler method I studied and they rolled their eyes. They just don’t want to be contradicted with new options that work.
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