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Newborn Seized in Hospital by Police, Social Worker
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | March 27, 2012 | Michael P. Farris, Esq.

Posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sopater

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We experienced something very similar to this recently when we had our baby. Medical staff often just do what they think that they need to do, and just don't answer questions that they are not comfortable answering. Questioning what they do is seen as challenging them and they don't take kindly to it.

We were also asked a series of very personal questions when we were being "interviewed" for the baby's SSN application. When we were asked what these questions had to do with acquiring a SSN, we were told that they were simply required to ask those questions. We respectfully refused to answer and told the lady that if her managers had a problem with that to have them come see us personally.

Often, the people who give the medications/treatments, confiscate babies/children, etc. are just following orders and if you question them, they don't know what to say other than it's our policy or the rules. It can be very intimidating for all involved.

Parents need to know their rights and challenge all gov't and hospital staff who think that they have some kind of special right to just carry on without your permission.

1 posted on 03/28/2012 7:52:13 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

It’s about good and evil. Our side approves of individual freedom. The “progressive” side believes that government will make all decisions for us better than we would make them ourselves. I’m not sure whether the next step for the other side is government-mandated exercise plans or government-mandated diets, but I expect one of the two “for the public good” if ObamaCare is not overturned.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 8:00:28 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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Once again, it boggles the mind that so many people are enamored of bureaucrats running our lives. Most "social workers" are barely qualified to flush a toilet.

Resist!

3 posted on 03/28/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: Sopater

I hope they sue the pants off of that hospital, the doctor, the case worker, and the nurses. Pathetic.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 8:01:32 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Sopater

I’ve never heard of anything so outrageous! Prayers for this family.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Sopater

There is so much more to this story than the “victimized” mother’s claims.


6 posted on 03/28/2012 8:05:42 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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, a government social worker named Angelica Lopez-Heagy

Well ... there's your problem, right there.

Several of them, in fact, all wrapped up in one neat little phrase.

7 posted on 03/28/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sopater

Will get much worse with Obamacare. This will be similar to a Twilight Zone Episode on youtube at URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzm_pTghRsk


8 posted on 03/28/2012 8:10:32 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Sopater

This is really vague. I’m a nurse, although not maternity.

When I had my babies, I asked questions, kicked out medical students, refused IVs, insisted on some other things, left early with one of the babies, broke rules about when my husband could stay with me, refused hepatitis shots, accepted the Vit K, refused to have them bottle feed my baby, told a nurse who was asking me about my post-natal contraception plans that she was being intrusive, and generally behaved like an assertive PIA princess. Which is not princess in the “fluff my pillow” sense.

If you hear maternity nurses talking behind their patients’ backs, some of them can be the bitchiest women you would ever meet, and any patient who wants things her way at one of life’s most transformative events is a princess. Some ob-gyns have that attitude too but I digress.

I never ran into anything like what you’re talking about - which is not to say it didn’t happen - but what exactly did happen? I can’t help but feel there must have been some particular trigger that got their panties in a twist.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 8:12:36 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Pollster1
The “progressive” side believes that government will make all decisions for us better than we would make them ourselves.

It wouldn't even matter if that were true. Your decisions belong to you; they're your property. Stealing your decisions from you is worse than stealing your money. Every dollar bill is like every other dollar bill; if someone steals your money you can go and get more. If they steal your decisions, those particular decisions are gone forever. If people go to jail for stealing your money, they should swing for stealing your decisions.

10 posted on 03/28/2012 8:16:19 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sopater

Somebody told me a long time ago that medical people think they’re “minor deities.” Time has proven him to have underestimated their hubris. They are omniscient, effectively omnipotent, and to done obeisance to.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 8:17:34 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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To: al_c

Hep B vaccination is a preventative measure, so that part doesn’t sound right to me. My new grand-baby got hep B vaccine at birth and will complete the series at specific intervals.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 8:17:53 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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The mother didn’t assert her rights and basically allowed the social worker to do what she did. Under the law, all she had to do was tell the hospital that the social worker was no longer authorized access to her or her medical records. Also, if the mother had called for a Code Pink that hospital would have been locked down tight and the social worker arrested.

Social workers cannot take an baby but must get a court order.

Also, this story is missing some facts. I have never seen a social worker target a mother for no reason. They simply do not have the authority.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 8:19:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Sopater

If there is any truth in this story, then the problem is not so much the health care workers who were involved, but the damned tort lawyers.

The hospital refused to let the baby go early precisely because it would open them up to huge lawsuits if anything went wrong.

That, in turn, is because the ambulance chasing lawyers are in bed with the politicians, especially Dem politicians.

So, now, ironically, what is happening? The hospital is being sued. Yes, they probably behaved stupidly, but it’s a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t, with these lawyers and politicians.


14 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sopater

Sue the crap out of ‘em.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: submarinerswife

Elaborate please.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 8:22:10 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Sopater

Social services...one of the most insidious of all government agencies. And one of the only government agency’s where they proudly and loudly proclaim to anyone who gets tangled up with them, to prove themselves innocent instead of the them (government agency) proving you guilty.


17 posted on 03/28/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by ebersole
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What is not reported here and is just as troubling is that about two months later two other social service workers, Rhonda Cash and Jenna Cramer, arrived unannounced at the Ferris's home. The social workers explained that it was an emergency because social workers decided it was an emergency at that point.

Retribution anyone??

Click here for the story

18 posted on 03/28/2012 8:26:07 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Prospero

Social workers have the lowest standardized test scores of any major - even lower than kindergarten teachers and other education majors.

Combine a room temperature IQ with the hard left indoctrination that constitutes the “curriculum” in “schools of social work”, add lots of power over others, and you get stupidity, evil, and resentment run amok.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: submarinerswife
"There is so much more to this story than the “victimized” mother’s claims."

You could be right and obviously you know what that "so much more" is. Lay it on us, submarinerswife.

20 posted on 03/28/2012 8:29:35 AM PDT by davisfh
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