OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARING TO BE STREAMED LIVE STARTING AT 0900 EST

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[RaceBannon]

Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link

[bgill]

In order to make that argument they have to accept that Obama Sr is Obama’s legal father

SADO's and Sr.'s divorce could be used to prove Sr. is the father in the eyes of the court. The Kenyan, biological parent or not, is the legal father until someone proves otherwise and has nothing to do with whether or not the BC he was waving in front of the cameras is fake or not.

[GregNH]

Obama gave up his opportunity to prove he is eligible, so he no longer has a right to submit evidence to either this judge or any appeals court. He is stuck with the facts of this case.

He is not stuck with the facts. The judge declared he was issuing a default judgement before any evidence was submitted because Zippo and or his attorney decided not to show. So the facts of the judgement are "Defendant failed to appear before, and show this court that he is eligible for the office he seeks and to appear on the Georgia primary ballot." That's it. All the Orly stuff and the MvH stuff is fine but it is not "fact" of the decision.

[morphing libertarian]

Let the supreme court rule and be done with it. Your opinion has the same weight as everyone else.

[little jeremiah]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2838347/posts

Update: Obama’s GA Ballot...: Judge Wanted To Immediately Enter Default Judgment Against Obama
Obama Release Your Records ^ | January 26, 2012 | Dean Haskins

(pinging a few names)

[opentalk]

Good of Summary of the hearing from inside the court.

summary of eligibility hearing

[SvenMagnussen]

Justice Thomas - “The Supreme Court is avoiding the issue.”

Only a Constitutional Amendment will define Natural-born citizen. Or if you worship the Leo - the INS will define it for you.

[butterdezillion]

Ah, that’s true about judicial notice. Although the judge against Lakin took judicial notice of the COLB even though its authenticity was hotly contested, so it might depend on the judge. Judge Denise Lind also did some kind of maneuver, IIRC, to keep Lakin from being able to contest the judicial notice as well, which isn’t supposed to happen.

She also took judicial notice of the certification of the electoral vote although I think that was still being contested by Kerchner (correct me if I’m wrong on that).

The Full Faith & Credit thing is why I’m interested in whether Malihi’s decision will be a ruling that Obama is not eligible, that he had not proven his eligibility, or just that he shouldn’t be on the GA ballot. If he ended up saying that Obama is not eligible because he’s not NBC that should have an impact on other states, I would think.

But then I’m not a lawyer. lol

[RummyChick]

THe Obama NBC standard is the ONLY way that Chester Arthur could be President as the father was not a US citizen prior to his birth. This comes from Leo D himself.

The Ankey case brings up the fact that no one used that claim against Arthur. They were using the claim that he wasn’t born in the US.

You have the exact same circumstances with Chester Arthur as you do Obama...providing both were born in the US - which I don’t know if that can be taken as fact, yet.

To me, something was going on with SCOTUS in the Ark case. I don’t know what intrigue was taking place but the fact that Arthur appointed Gray is as good of reason as any for speculation as to why that case turned out the way it did.

[rolling_stone]

I love how “Foggy” put on his 18 year old wedding suit and had to change into jeans (and white shirt with button down collar) because his suit had holes in the bottom. Foggy bottom indeed. Loren is over there too, and was in the court today, cant wait to hear his opinion of the days events with his fantastic “knowledge” of the law. Not one foggy has thought of (or at least expressed)the possibility that the dems are throwing Obie to the wolves as they know he can't get reelected and survive the challenges.

[DiogenesLamp]

Judge already said he is recommending removing his name from ballot, SOS already said he will do what judge recommends

I will be thrilled to count that chicken AFTER it has hatched. :)

[Triple]

The COLB and LFCOLB were submitted without seal - meaning they were on their face tampered documents, and no one testified that they were true copies of the originals.

Further, the documents were challenged in the same courtroom moments later by Orly’s witnesses. These 3 cases will all be part of the judges recommendation to the SoS of Georgia.

The letter to the SoS will likely say the ballot challenge is upheld, based on failure to show qualification under NBC requirement of article II, and failure to provide the court with genuine certified birth records with raised seal and registrar’s stamp - or any other records that officially indicate eligibility.

The secretary of state will have little choice but to deny BHO II ballot placement.

[georgia peach]

That is what I have been thinking.

[butterdezillion]

And if I remember correctly somebody DID present the divorce record as evidence. And the excerpt from Obama’s biography.

[SeaHawkFan]

And your expertise on default judgments is based on ...?

[Danae]

Here is my problem with all this. Ok, let’s assume a default judgement is indeed rendered and the SOS of Georgia follows it. Ok, so Obama gets notices posted at every poling place in Georgia saying he isn’t eligible and is off the ballot. Ok fine. So the General election comes up and no Democrat is listed, or it is someone written in.

Remember, people do NOT vote for POTUS. They vote to tell their electoral College voters HOW to vote. Well, ever heard of “Faithless electors”? They are electors who vote for a POTUS candidate other than who the voters told them to. They go their own way. At that point, the Georgia electors may well just cast their votes for Obama ANYWAY.

What the heck really happened today?

[JohnBovenmyer]

Mickey Mouse was born in America. And I'm pretty sure father Walt was a citizen at the time. The Mouse's problem is we don't know who his mother was. Born in US, with only one parent then a known citizen, would make Mickey as eligible as Obama, no more. Arguably Mickey has no Mom, but has two Dads — presaging modern Disney — with his second Dad being animator Ub Iwerks, who also was a US citizen at the time. Whether that suffices for NBC raises issues even beyond Obama's case!

[bluecat6]

As I expwctes; and why he pretty much told Taitz to shut up and just submit her documents.

Which is what she should have done and had prepared ahead of time.

This was to COLLECT material, data and facts. It was not a trial.

A real life example I had was a zoning hearing. We hired a lawyer to help fight a change. He did do some talking at the hearing that was entered into the minutes. But he also brought a 3" full binder to counter the request. And that was the material formally submitted to the court. Orly and all the lawyers should have done the same thing today.

[DiogenesLamp]

Obama gave up his opportunity to prove he is eligible, so he no longer has a right to submit evidence to either this judge or any appeals court. He is stuck with the facts of this case.

Only in Georgia, and barring some legal maneuver of which I am unfamiliar. I've seen people suggest that a Federal court could enact an injunction and tie the issue up till after the election. Maybe, I don't know.

I would like to see more states file suit to keep him off the ballot. If he keeps not showing up and not presenting evidence, the snowball just gets bigger and bigger.

[butterdezillion]

So the decision will basically be that he should be left off the ballot for lack of evidence and none of the substance presented in any of the 3 cases means anything?

[Tennessee Nana]

The divorce package was missing a BC for Barry