[E. Pluribus Unum]

The very fact that the question can legitimately be asked reveals the answer.

[edcoil]

Mention cold fusion and every time I think of the movie I.Q.

[isaiah55version11_0]

Fox News re: Ecat

[Kevmo]

Thanks for posting this, Isaiah. It looks like it’s picked up by Fox News.

The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

Keywords: ColdFusion; LENR; E-CAT; CMNS
business, news, extended, tech

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2800077/posts

Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

[cuban leaf]

Fox is a bit late to the party. e-Cat has been reported here for quite some time.

[justlurking]

Jonathan Koomey, an energy consultant who has advised the EPA, said any extraordinary discovery requires extraordinary proof. He said the E-Cat must be verified by an independent study conducted by scientists who are allowed access to the machine’s inner-workings.

“[The E-Cat experiment] should be treated as a hoax until independent scientists are able to replicate these results,” Koomey told FoxNews.com -- as one would treat claims that someone had defied the laws of gravity or found a major flaw in the theory of relativity.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Our US Navy has been studying it and think there might be something to it.
http://www.lenr-canr.org/Collections/USNavy.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue44/navy.html

[Hodar]

The only hitch: Scientists say the method -- cold fusion -- is patently impossible. They say it defies the laws of physics.

I honestly can't say that I've heard this.

What I have heard, and completely agree with is that the methodology of measuring the heat generated is dubious. As an engineer with a little experience in setting up and monitoring equipment - this perplexes me. It's just not that hard, nor that expensive. In fact, many equipment Reps I know would FREELY donate equipment on loan; for these measurements to be precisely taken at numerous (250+) points, both gas as well as surface temperatures. So, while I am fascinated by the prospect, I am also disappointed by the lack of thought put into the demonstrations. However, I'm ever hopefull that someone will press forward and present a solution to our energy problems.

Frankly, I don't give a hill of beans if some scientist doesn't understand "Why" it works. I don't understand "Why" women do what they do, but I'm certainly grateful that they do what they do.

But, I've never heard a scientist say that is't patently impossible.

[SpaceBar]

A multifaceted question. Much of the controversy stems directly from the carnival side-show like tone of Rossi’s E-CAT “press releases”, together with no concrete details other than innuendo and citing others’ work. Then you got a handful of posters right here on FR who choose to defend “Rossi’s honor” like new black panthers at a polling place, suggesting a financial or commercial motive beyond just posting an interesting or amusing news article worthy of comment. They know who they are.

[Triple]

“Jonathan Koomey, an energy consultant who has advised the EPA, said any extraordinary discovery requires extraordinary proof. He said the E-Cat must be verified by an independent study conducted by scientists who are allowed access to the machine’s inner-workings.

“[The E-Cat experiment] should be treated as a hoax until independent scientists are able to replicate these results,” Koomey told FoxNews.com — as one would treat claims that someone had defied the laws of gravity or found a major flaw in the theory of relativity. “ - article

Who is this guy,”Koomey,” he sounds like a seagull...(almost the same as my comments)

[JaguarXKE]

I’m withholding an opinion until Al Gore weighs in. /sarc

[count-your-change]

The well has been poisoned by the amateurish and inept e-cat demos.
The idea that cold fusion might exist is surely worth exploring and apparently many reputable scientists are but claiming the proof is in that a customer has been found is like saying finding a mark proves the three card monte game is honest.

Plus the outlandish hype of e-cat promoters invites the demand that it live up to claims made, an unlikely prospect.

[Moonman62]

Allan hinted on his blog that an unnamed “customer” of Rossi's device is a military organization that starts with an N. Rossi said this customer measured and verified the test -- and told FoxNews.com that Paul Swanson with the U.S. Navy’s Space and Naval Warfare Systems unit (SPAWAR) can vouch for the demonstration.

FoxNews.com spoke with a man at SPAWAR who identified himself as Swanson, and who said only that he was "not in a position to talk to the press." Several other sources within the Navy and the Pentagoneither declined to comment or did not return messages.

Looks like Swanson couldn't vouch for it.

[Nateman]

The heat is initiated by electrical resistance,” Rossi explained, a stage that takes about two hours. The reactors then produce another 479kWh of energy for another 3-4 hours without needing that initial electrical input -- the low-level nuclear reaction continues on its own.

I think this is a scam. If it was genuine nuclear energy it should run for YEARS. Their output sounds like an everyday chemical reaction.

[Paladin2]

So what if it is not technically fusion? If it turns out to be an economical source of power from relatively available and safe fuel(s), I’ll take it.

[layman]

A physicist in Italy

I'm curious as to whether this guy has any money invested in Nickle futures.

[Razzz42]

Instead, invest in stand alone generators and wall outlets.

[buffaloguy]

There are a number of other researchers who are working on something similar using different metals and they show some potential.

This may not be cold fusion, but it may just be an atomic reaction that is useful.

[aruanan]

The only hitch: Scientists say the method -- cold fusion -- is patently impossible. They say it defies the laws of physics.

Corrected version: The only hitch: Some scientists say the method -- cold fusion -- is patently impossible based on their current understanding of so-called hot fusion. They say it defies the laws of physics, a claim that is one of the best measures to date of their unwillingness to accept that their current knowledge may not exist in a one-to-one correspondence with reality.

[NoLibZone]

100% BS Hoax.