Posted on 10/24/2011 9:42:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
PRINCETON, N.J., Oct. 24 (UPI) -- Most Americans say they would amend the Constitution to swap the Electoral College with a popular-vote system to elect the president, a poll indicates.
Sixty-two percent of Americans prefer replacing the Electoral College and 35 percent would keep the current method for electing presidents, results from a Gallup poll released Monday indicated.
For the first time since the disputed 2000 presidential election, the majority of Republicans said they favor amending the Constitution, the Princeton, N.J., polling agency said.
That year, Democrat Al Gore won the national popular vote but Republican George W. Bush wound up with more electoral votes and was elected.
Those who advocate abolishing the Electoral College said they thought the system puts undue emphasis on a small number of swing states, Gallup said. Americans generally agree that the United States should adopt a system in which the popular vote prevails.
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“NPV is a high speed route to revolt.”
That’s the way I see it also.
If this NPV farce is ever adopted, it will lead to the secession of several States.
The 17th amendment is, as put into practice, unlawful, and we have not had a duly seated Constitutional Senate since it was put into practice.
NO STATE SHALL BE DENIED SUFFRAGE WITHOUT IT’S CONSENT!!!
That means the ONLY way for the 17th amendment to Constitutionally go into effect was for it to be ratified by EVERY state in the union at the time. And not the people of the state, THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE.
And there were about 12 states that never ratified it...
The Constitutional balance of power between the people, the States, and the Federal government has been destroyed. Combine that fact with the fact that the Federal Reserve act gave the feds the power to create money out of thin air, and you see a situation where the States become just the lap dogs of an all-powerful federal government.
I have done the analysis back to 1960 so far and no Presidential election would have changed as far as I can tell.
-PJ
“I think, to work together and to get over the partisan bickering and focus on fixing things. I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won't hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that." - Democrat Gov. Bev Perdue
Brainwashing works. We now have 4 generations of Americans most of whom have no clue what Federalism is or why the Founders chose it. We are heading for raw democracy as a step toward socialist tyranny.
Every day I give thanks to God that I was not born later. I have always held dear with immense gratitude that I was born in America. As I age, I am grateful that I will pass long before the American experiment fails completely. The Founders would not recognize this nation as it is. I am so grateful I will not live to see the really horrible stuff.
I am only 52 now and may live another 25 years, but what comes in 50-100 years from now will be truly horrible. We will have very little societal/cultural unity to hold together all the different races and language speakers and will balkanize severely. Federal government control will be paramount.
I really grieve for people’s great grandchildren and further down the line. We have completely betrayed them as a nation. We have sold them back into slavery.
dangerously mis-educated towards a purpose...
What could go wrong?
It would basically take the worst features of our current situation and make them permanent.
We’d get Liberal Democrat Presidents from now until forever since California and the Northeast Corridor would always elect them.
But Congressional districts would continue to vote as they have. The result: perpetual gridlock.
Yes, I understand that.
My point is that they are trying to give the impression that a majority of Americans are in favor of it, which is patently not true.
Any law can be repealed.
We should get rid of the electors (the people, that is) but keep the electoral votes. We should also do away with carrying a state based on its overall popular vote and, instead, allocate the votes mechanically, based on the popular vote in each congressional district, with the two at-large votes going to the winner of the congressional district(s) or split in the event of a tie in congressional districts.
That would restore the voting rights of residents of rural districts in big states, who are currently swamped by population centers in those states. It would also firewall vote fraud to the districts in which it occurs.
Our public schools and media are 24/7 teaching that we are a democracy-—they want mob rule where there are no minority rights whatsoever. Democracies ALWAYS lead to tyranny.
We need to teach facts about the separation of powers and repeal the 17th amendment.
Majority rule with minority rights.
Majority rule without minority rights is mob rule.
Minority rights without majority rule is what we have now
Minority rule is, prima facie, tyranny (monarchy, oligarchy, dictatorship)
Alternate headline
“Most Americans are stupid”
That's one part of it--the last created vote wins. Recounts over 200 million votes would be endless.
There's another reason, too. Straight popular voting doesn't even the field for large rural areas relative to population centers. It deprives flyover country of representation at the presidential level.
Majority rule with minority rights.
Majority rule without minority rights is mob rule.
Minority rights without majority rule is what we have now
Minority rule is, prima facie, tyranny (monarchy, oligarchy, dictatorship)
Majority rule with minority rights.
Majority rule without minority rights is mob rule.
Minority rights without majority rule is what we have now
Minority rule is, prima facie, tyranny (monarchy, oligarchy, dictatorship)
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/24989
The artifice of the National Popular Vote’s end-run around the Constitution consists simply of causing enough states to change their election laws to a system of waiting until the popular vote is calculated, then ceremoniously bestowing the entirety of their electoral votes for the popular vote winner. There exists three major flaws with their scam:
1.It defeats the spirit of Article II Section 1 of the Constitution regarding the use of electorates to cast votes for the presidency,
2.their scam is to circumvent a necessary constitutional amendment, which would be impossible to pass, to elect the president by popular vote, and
3.the states that actually buy into their contrivance would be removing themselves from any influence regarding the presidential election as their votes would support a president already elected by the other states, thus rendering the will of their own citizens irrelevant.
Their preposterous assumption is that the Constitution only mentions using electorates, and does not specifically mention the Electoral College, so it is well within a state’s rights to cast all their electoral votes for the popular winner, and this would lay firmly within the confines of the intention of the Constitution; but it does not, it violates the spirit and intentions of the Constitution.
New York would have the same influence as Detroit or Philadelphia.
The big decision would be made in Cook County and Los Angeles County
Our forefathers knew exactly what they were doing in setting up the electoral college. I love these polls...Like I’ve been saying, they’re no longer polls but “mind” games.
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