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Bill Maher bets $1 million Herman Cain won't be Republican nominee
Examiner ^ | 15 October 2011 | Liz Brown

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:00:11 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

Bill Maher may be anti-religion, but he's got faith in one thing: Herman Cain won't be the the 2012 Republican Presidential nominee.

Maher bet CNBC correspondent Michele Caruso-Cabrera $1 million that Cain won't earn the GOP nomination, and shook hands on the wager during Friday night's taping of his HBO political comedy show Real Time with Bill Maher.

Caruso-Cabrera was arguing that Cain's "incredible likeability factor" could carry him all the way when, Maher snarked back that he'd put a million dollars down against her one dollar that Cain won't win the nomination because Republicans can't deal with a non-white candidate.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
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To: Rome2000

> Why would they want to pay 9% sales tax on top?

Because the 9% sales tax would replace the SS and Medicare taxes.

That means all the drug dealers and welfare cheats have to pay into the system whenever they buy their cars, large screen TVs, iPods, iPads, laptops and digital SLR cameras


21 posted on 10/15/2011 4:29:37 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It tells me libs have infiltrated the GOP as well.

You have doubts about this?

22 posted on 10/15/2011 4:30:45 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Rome2000
Why would they want to pay 9% sales tax on top?

And that's 9 percent on TOP of whatever state and local sales taxes are paid. In some states that could amount to a 20 percent or higher tax burden.

And the whole idea of inserting a federal tax and its coercive enforcement mechanisms into the sale of every package of tea sold in this country ought to have the Tea Party faithful recoiling in horror. But it's not. They love it! "It's 9-9-9! Give me some MORE government with my tea. I Cain't get enough!"

Idiots.

23 posted on 10/15/2011 4:37:25 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea
This site is stuffed to the gills with detailed critical questions and criticisms about his 9-9-9 plan. You've either simply ignored reading them or you have read them and dismissed the criticism out of hand because you want to believe the 9-9-9 plan like a fundamentalist believes religion.

Gee, the opinion of some anonymous FReeper or my economics degrees coupled with Art Laffer, Paul Ryan and Club for Growth.

I don't think you are on solid ground.

If you support someone else, that is fine. It does not give you the right to attack the conservative dream of getting to a flat or fair tax system.

24 posted on 10/15/2011 4:39:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Rome2000
Middle class families who have a mortgage and itemize deductions already pay about 10% income tax on their gross income.

Why would they want to pay 9% sales tax on top?


You forgot to add in the 7.5% they pay in payroll taxes. That brings them to about 17.5%. Then you can also factor in the benefits of the other taxes that will be eliminated.

I'm fairly middle class, and I've run the numbers for myself. It is pretty much tax neutral for me.

I've also been talking to some business owners (small businesses) just to understand this better. They will benefit from this plan better than the average joe. This will allow them to become more competitive in their markets (ie. lowering the prices on their products), which will in turn make their products more enticing to the average American consumer.

This along with some aggressive changes in our foreign trade policies, in my opinion can only have a positive effect on our economy.

Unfortunately, the last to benefit will be the poor. They will have no relief until the economy turns around.
25 posted on 10/15/2011 4:42:24 AM PDT by loucon
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To: Westbrook
That means all the drug dealers and welfare cheats have to pay into the system whenever they buy their cars, large screen TVs, iPods, iPads, laptops and digital SLR cameras

How much does that translate to in total revenue?

A 9% additional tax on consumption will reduce consumption and encourage wide spread cheating and a black market.

The Feral Gov't takes in 3 trillion a year and spends 4.

SS and Medicare tax is at about 18% on everybody who gets W-2 income, but the worker only sees about 10% of that taken out of their paycheck, which is the employees contribution.

I would be getting a 1% tax cut and the employer would pocket the 7.5% that he used to pay towards SS for me.

Sounds like a good deal for the guy running the pizza joint.

26 posted on 10/15/2011 4:44:27 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

I think people need to cool their jet’s on Cain’s 999 plan. If Herman can win the POTUS this plan will never pass. It will though spark the debate on a flat tax which is good. Him having 999 starts that conversation.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 4:44:36 AM PDT by mmanager
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To: Walkingfeather; All
Are you INSANE? Seriously NEWT?

Spoke with a Tea Party friend of mine the other day post the debate and we were discussing Newt coming from behind on the outside....

We noted yes, Newt is doing good and is brilliant, but my friend who is more tempered than me in terms of what is do-able, I tend to think more out of the box, he mentioned Newt as VP...

Why? My friend is a huge Herman suppporter going back 1.5 years now when he started visiting the Tea Parties here in Michigan. He also noted, Herman has not been in Gov't. Newt has, and knows the levers of power and procedures to get things done and also how screwed up things are.

Newt would be the same type of "DC" assest that Cheney was to GWB. GWB might have been Governor, but he didn't know the ways of DC. Our guess is Cheney helped in that area more than we know.

Seriously think about it, it may work better than we realize, they are both idea guys but I don't see them butting heads, they may actually see things eye to eye.

28 posted on 10/15/2011 4:44:55 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: loucon
Unfortunately, the last to benefit will be the poor. They will have no relief until the economy turns around.

Or until the Newt Gingrich and the rest of the Republican old white guys kill them.

29 posted on 10/15/2011 4:47:50 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: behzinlea
You got to be kidding me. This site is stuffed to the gills with detailed critical questions and criticisms about his 9-9-9 plan.

I've seen plenty of questions, but mostly the negative comments are just like yours. No content, just verbal retributions against the supporters of the plan.

What have you done to research this plan? Have you actually taken the time to run the numbers, or are you just parroting things you've heard.
30 posted on 10/15/2011 4:48:29 AM PDT by loucon
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To: fortheDeclaration

IF Cain does win the nomination, you can bet this scumbag won’t pay up. He’s disingenuous.


31 posted on 10/15/2011 4:48:49 AM PDT by GunPkrBkr (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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To: Rome2000

> Sounds like a good deal for the guy running the pizza joint.

Except that he has no loopholes on his 9% tax.

It evens the playing field between large corporations that have a phalanx of legal luminaries to reduce their tax burden to less than 9% and the mom & pop pizza parlor that’s paying about 20% PLUS payroll taxes.


32 posted on 10/15/2011 4:50:09 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Rome2000

“His 9-9-9 plan is seriously flawed.”

That’s an understatement. It guarantees funding for an already gigantic run-amuck federal government as far into the future as the eye cas see.


33 posted on 10/15/2011 4:51:17 AM PDT by ngat
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To: behzinlea
Not me. As much as I would like to see Maher get poked in the eye, after suffering the four year disaster that is Obama, I want a president who is ready-for-prime-time far, far more.

So in your opinion, in order to be President, one has to have been a politician, and not just an evil rich business man?

Cain's college degree in Math, his service in working for the Navy his success in business and his 40 plus years of marriage give him no experience in being able to lead people and make decisions.

The President never shoots a gun or flies a plane that drops the bombs, he only has to have the moral conviction and common sense in the interpretation of conflicting advice, to know when to tell others to do so.

Other than the fact that Cain has never been a politician {which I view as a plus}, what else makes him, in your well thought out opinion, "not ready for prime time".

34 posted on 10/15/2011 4:52:35 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: Erik Latranyi

His money is safe.


35 posted on 10/15/2011 4:53:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: taildragger

DUDE, Newt is about making money, that is it. THat is all, complete and whole. Take a look at his PAC . They shake down little old ladies for their money, and do nothing. THERE IS NO WAY people would vote for NEWT. ZERO. Move along.


36 posted on 10/15/2011 4:53:48 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: behzinlea
And the whole idea of inserting a federal tax and its coercive enforcement mechanisms into the sale of every package of tea sold in this country ought to have the Tea Party faithful recoiling in horror. But it's not. They love it! "It's 9-9-9! Give me some MORE government with my tea. I Cain't get enough!"

You are already paying HIDDEN taxes on products you buy as business just pass their tax costs along to the consumer Cutting corporate and business taxes lowers the cost of goods you you pay less despite the 9% Or did you think the price on a loaf of bread now is tax free
37 posted on 10/15/2011 4:56:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: loucon
Unfortunately, the last to benefit will be the poor. They will have no relief until the economy turns around.

If the poor are not on food stamps etc they will benefit as the HIDDEN taxes they pay on goods are removed or lessened
38 posted on 10/15/2011 4:59:19 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I do like Mr. Cain’s plain speaking style. I’ve had enough of this PC crap and politicians always tip toeing around certain groups because they don’t want to offend them and lose their votes. So what if Mr. Cain doesn’t have “experience?” We had an “experienced” politician and community organizer as president. How well did that work out?


39 posted on 10/15/2011 5:00:08 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Erik Latranyi

He’ll never pay up if he loses. They lie - just ask the “POS-in-Chief” who said he wouldn’t run again if he couldn’t fix the problems in one term.


40 posted on 10/15/2011 5:01:07 AM PDT by wesagain
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