Palin's Take on Perry at GOP Debate (video)

FoxNews ^ | Sept. 9, 2011 | Laura Ingram and Sarah Palin

[Clairity]

Video - no transcript.

[smoothsailing]

On the other hand, at least my idea was funny and plausible.........you might want to work on that part...../insult

I like Palin and Perry and think they'll make a fine team. It doesn't much matter which one is President and which one is VP, the country will be better off.

I don't do Palin bashing, and I'll leave the Perry bashing to you.

Have fun!

[Lakeshark]

I don't bash, I just point out his problems with the amnesty/LaRaza/pro-illegal set.

He has some severe problems with his record that make me not trust him as much as you do.........

[Finny]

But the Palin supporters have been so hateful to every other candidate and their supporters ...

Really? I invite you to investigate my posts in forum and link one where I've been "hateful" to folks because they support Perry. It will be a waste of your time (unless you're one of those who thinks disagreeing with you is the equivalent of "hateful"), but you can try.

Now, Romney supporters were DOMINATED by folks who described those of us who regard Romney as truly dangerous to this nation as "hateful," and they also told bold-faced lies often in their quest to get people to support Romney. They called people who didn't support Romney "children," they called them bigots, they called them "haters" ad naseum, they called them every name in the book and it was OVERWHELMINGLY a dominant characteristic of FReepers who supported Romney. Therefore, to me it spoke volumes about Romney.

From what I've read on FR, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, and Palin supporters are all about equal in that only a very few of them, ANY of them regardless of the candidate, exhibit such vitriol. So far on FR, only a very few of ANY candidate's supporters are sending up such warning signs.

I WILL say unequivocally that there have been several Palin DETRACTORS -- meaning that who they support has been irrelevant in the context -- who have again and again (some of them for the past several years) posted misleading and downright false "facts" meant to foment dislike for Palin, and I maintain that when someone has to lie in order to get people to join his side, then it's a pretty sure sign his side is the wrong one.

But so far, I haven't seen that related TO any candidate's supporters, but rather TO one particular candidate's detractors.

[CajunConservative]

So what. There is a big difference in quitting half way in because of being defeated by the DNC machine and seeing that the country is in dire straits if zer0 isn’t kicked out office the next election.

If he believes he can tackle the problems from his many years of experience then he has as much right to go for it as anyone else on the ticket at the moment. He has been in the trenches fighting the bastard and knows exactly how evil he is. Hell he called him a fraud after meeting him face to face to discuss the border issue and he called him a liar in the debate over saying that the border at El Paso was perfectly safe.

Who else has actually called zer0 what he is without being afraid of being called a racist.

[GunRunner]

It's amazing to me that you're willing to write off Palin's endorsement of McCain in the AZ senate primary as "a political game and reality", but you're using the excuse of "big donors and money" to bash Perry.

I've got news for you FRiend; if you think that "big donors and money" are not a political reality, you're in for a shock. Even Sarah's imaginary campaign is going to have to deal with the reality of big money if she ever declares, ESPECIALLY against a $1 billion Obama war chest. I can see this not being a political reality for Palin, having been a part time Governor of a state 35 times smaller than Texas, but big money and big donors are a necessity.

I've got no argument with pointing out Perry's deficiencies, but what I have a real problem with is the "walk on water" attitude of Palin supporters who pretend she is perfect, and that she has NO flaws as a candidate.

I'm positive that Perry and Palin both are bigger people than those who pledge not to support either for whatever arbitrary reason, whether it's you or a Perry supporter.

But since Palin is on the record supporting Governor Perry (and considering she ran on McCain's ticket), I have no doubt whatsoever that she will endorse him. So no "crying" will be necessary because she WILL endorse him, whether you do or not.

[rintense]

But the Palin supporters have been so hateful to every other candidate and their supporters, they turned me away from Sarah.

Why don't you look at the people here who support Perry? You will find the same thing.

[WVKayaker]

...There’s a big difference between a debate with a minute to make a point and a segment on a program where there’s more time hash things out.- Cajun perrisite

Once again, you step on your oxygen hose and lose the flow to your brain. Maybe you were too young for the last election. If you wish to take the time to see her debating skills in action, watch her with the Biden debate in 2008. Click here to view the full debate on YouTube.

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[Just mythoughts]

So what. There is a big difference in quitting half way in because of being defeated by the DNC machine and seeing that the country is in dire straits if zer0 isn’t kicked out office the next election. If he believes he can tackle the problems from his many years of experience then he has as much right to go for it as anyone else on the ticket at the moment. He has been in the trenches fighting the bastard and knows exactly how evil he is. Hell he called him a fraud after meeting him face to face to discuss the border issue and he called him a liar in the debate over saying that the border at El Paso was perfectly safe. Who else has actually called zer0 what he is without being afraid of being called a racist.

OK by your own words you have NO problem with a politician LYING if it serves himself. I have said NOTHING about his 'rights'. And I did NOT start this game of accusing people of lying...

[Quicksilver]

I’m of the opinion that Perry’s back issue played a role in him deciding to run or not.

[CajunConservative]

RG’s other problems would not be so hard to undo. The marxist has been nearly successful in fundamentally changing our country. If we don’t get him out then who knows if we will ever recover. He doesn’t bother following the law or the constitution.

[rintense]

Show me where money exchanged between Palin and McCain and I might listen. Until then, you're analogy is apples and oranges.

If you think Palin will do the 'pay to play' that so many other entrenched politicians do, you've out of your mind. And, I will be the first to go after her is she does.

I've never said Palin is perfect. There is and never will be the perfect candidate.

AS for your 'she will endorse him', of course she will. She's already said she will endorse whoever wins the RNC, including Romney, because for her 'it's anybody but Obama'.

And that's where she and I part ways.

ABO is not a strategy. It's an emotion plea doomed to fail. But if she doesn't run, I highly doubt she'll endorse anyone before the RNC, and let the process play out instead.

[Sea Parrot]

The faint praise was in reference to that of Palin to Perry.

Governor Palin does not have me grasping for anything, It strikes me that it is her detractors who are in an agitated froth. The decision is hers and hers alone. If she says yes, I am all in, if she says no, I will then move on.

[Just mythoughts]

I’m of the opinion that Perry’s back issue played a role in him deciding to run or not.

I have NO clue why he stated publicly last November he was NOT running for the office of president. Whatever the politics are NO Perry supporter, can with a straight face accuse Sarah of lying and NOT have to carry a literal burden of their own candidate. Perry supporters want to trash and bash Sarah, have at it, but Perry walks around in chest waders when it comes to the character of truth telling.

My biggest pet peeve is hearing somebody blame someone else for what happens in their own bubble, next, is to say well everybody else is doing it. AND to hear, well Ronald Reagan was a democrat tooo..... Perry should have been schooled by the example Ronald Reagan set, but NOT even until the political landscape in Texas change did Perry change.

[Finny]

The La Raza thing REALLY disturbs me the most, and the next most disturbing is the Gardasil thing -- government had ZERO business in innoculating girls against an STD that might hurt them later on. None. There is zero defense. I like, though, that he admitted it was wrong and moved on. It would have been better if he'd headed it off at the pass and rejected it in the first place because it went against limited government principle.

The La Raza thing -- I'm a native Californian and know a thing or two about La Raza, and I am here to tell you that it IS A RACIST ORGANIZATION. Period. Any government official who speaks to the group, lends it credibility and legitimacy that is WRONGLY PLACED, as wrong as it would be for any candidate, Dem or Rep, to speak to the Ku Klux Clan or the Black Panthers.

The words "La Raza" mean "the race" in Spanish, and it signifies the indigenous "brown" people who populated areas conquered by Spain. True "La Raza" folks reject the term "hispanic" or "latino" to describe themselves because neither Spain nor any Latin nation (European) is connected in any way, shape, or form to them except in that it represents the language of their conquerers. And actually, that makes sense. It is purely racist, genetic, as is the whole race-pandering identity "minority" politics thing. It is ridiculous to call my blond, blue-eyed niece whose last name is Lopez (her father) a "latina," and just a ridiculous to call my half-Irish, half-Mexican grandfather an "hispanic." (Though I loved what a Mexican gal told me the other day what she and her Irish husband call their kids -- "green beans" --!!! [^)

As for amnesty, I leave that to wiser heads. I am of the opinion that at bottom, the whole illegal immigration mess has been caused by TOO DAMNED MUCH GOVERNMENT, and when government gets out of the way, illegal immigration will shrink back down to what it was before -- insignificant.

[Finny]

Then maybe you ought to get new glasses — proverbially speaking! :^)

[smoothsailing]

I don’t trust any of them.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Only Sarah can save them now, why won't she speak?

She does speak. This thread is about her speaking. She just isn't saying what a few of them want to hear yet. For most of us, even Palin supporters, we are still happy with what she is saying.

I have no doubt that, if she decides to run, she won't need her supporters to make her arguments for her. She is quite capable of speaking her mind, and she is very good at expressing herself, and getting media attention to do so.

[bert]

Reflected starlight is dim and lacks heat

[Finny]

AS for your 'she will endorse him', of course she will. She's already said she will endorse whoever wins the RNC, including Romney, because for her 'it's anybody but Obama'. And that's where she and I part ways. ABO is not a strategy. It's an emotion plea doomed to fail.

Well said -- it's the one area where I also part ways with Palin, Rush, and Levin. I have analyzed it over the course of the past few years from a whole bunch of different angles, and have concluded that odds are very high that Mitt Romney would in the long run pose a bigger danger to the Republic than another four years of Obama; I also think that under any circumstances the likelihood of Obama getting, let alone completing, another four years in the White House are microscopic. IF he won, it would be either by plurality or vote fraud, and the inevitable consequence would be that a large majority of Americans would be EXTREMELY ANGRY about his being there. He would lose either way.

[Finny]

If she says yes, I am all in, if she says no, I will then move on.

Yep. Me too. Why some people have such a resistence to understanding that position is perplexing.