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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #4 - Sep. 7, 2011 8pm/5pm: Reagan Library, CA (MSNBC)
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Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: MSNBC

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

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To: mylife
"The Perry people have been nasty and hateful to both Palin and her supporters"

I have seen nothing of the kind.

You either don't hang out here much, or you're being dishonest. I can produce a dozen flaming replies to me from Perry supporters at the drop of a hat.

1,481 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DRey

I agree. Every damn one of them is better than Obama.


1,482 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: TheRobb7

Same with me, Just noticed. lol


1,483 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:35 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: CynicalBear

Nope. My experience is that there are a good number of women here in MO that don’t buy the Palin shtick. That seems to reflect in polls as well. My wife had pretty good radar.


1,484 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by magritte
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To: erlayman

The trouble with Commodore Huntsman is that he is like a rudderless ship of intellect and ideals. He’ll blow this way and that and only make way by luck.

How do we know that? By the global warming and science arrogance he displayed.

He’s gullible. Will anchor well in any port and is well-dressed while in tow. But on the open seas?

Just another piece of flotsam and jetsam.


1,485 posted on 09/07/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bossmechanic

These people are pathetic!


1,486 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:03 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: aarongibbons

Welcome to Freerepublic. Did you sign up just to attack Perry?


1,487 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:03 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Outlaw Woman

I have not lied about a dang thing. The evidence of his actions are out there for all to see. He’s just another RINO willing to take away the rights that belong to the PEOPLE. You can believe whatever happy horsepucky you wish, I’m fine with that. Or maybe I should jump up and down and accuse you of LYING! But then again that is not conducive to proper discussion and debate. (By the way... I am not your dearie). Quit comparing this to Palin threads... you are quite the drama queen.


1,488 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:07 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: McLynnan

The issue with Palin isn’t whether or not she can make up her mind, it’s that getting in too early would be strategically bad for her the way the media and the Establishment want to tear her down.

She’ll be in soon enough.


1,489 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: The Bronze Titan

I agree — Rick Santorum out tonight for me. Although I thought the Catholic
question was out of bounds.

Herman Cain was good. As was Newt.
I liked Michelle because she pointed out that we are going to need
POLITICAL CAPITAL to repeal Obamacare. Just because you waive the
states don’t mean zero. REPEAL OBAMACARE.

I don’t like Huntsman. He’s too patronizing.

After an answer by Mitt Romney — I thought MITT has no poetry in him.
He reminds me of Eric Cantor’s answer in the summit on healthcare in
Feb. 2010. He just said we don’t want Obamacare because we can’t
afford it. A total economic argument.

What about freedom? What about the dignity of the person?
What about the constitution?

Romney didn’t even get the Tea Party definition right.

So I guess what I am saying is... Romney is a big government George Bush
compassionate conservative who will NEVER have the backbone needed
to repeal Obamacare.
Romney’s 59 points is just a laundry list— not a philosophy.

In fact, I thought Romney would make a good Sec. of Treasury,
Budget Director NOT President.

ROMNEY NOT PRESIDENT.


1,490 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:16 PM PDT by preamble
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To: CynicalBear

My guess is that Fox will discuss the debate tomorrow night.


1,491 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Soul Seeker

The MSNBC lefties really are pushing for Romney.

The want the DNC to use the Ponzi Scheme remark against Perry.


1,492 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:41 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (OMG means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Here is all you need to know in terms of who won tonight’s debate. EVERY single person on the MSNBC panel right now is saying Perry lost the night. Chris Matthews is pooping his pants when he sees Perry. As Rush says all the time, the MSM will tell you who they fear most by who they attack most.


1,493 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:44 PM PDT by dictatorMA (Allen back up again)
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To: South40
Little do you understand that Parry has now effectively laid the Gardasil and border issues firmly behind any further discussion.

In the coming debates, he will solidify his very strong ability and appeal to connect with Americans on the issues they are most concerned about.

You only wish Perry was through. His “front runner” status is only just starting. The coming debates will launch him into the Presidential category. He is a fighter and won't back down to anybody. Just look at how he handed Goofball Paul's ass to him. Literally.

1,494 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:44 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

How could you not love Al — “Reagan was the democrat. He raised taxes and doubled the deficit...”


1,495 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:21 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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To: LUV W

Perry did very good. He was attacked from ever which direction and stood his ground well. I can’t say there was a winner or loser. Eveyone but huntsman and Paul did excellent. All these people have tried to tell us Perry isn’t a good debater...tonight he proved that to be horse sh*t...


1,496 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:31 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: CynicalBear

Yeah I’m disappointed Fox isn’t talking at all about it. Maybe it’s a sign for bed.


1,497 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:47 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: caww

I agree..I thought Perry did good, he seemed a bit tired, but who wouldn’t be, half is State is on fire and I am sure that is more than stressful....


1,498 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:56 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: tcrlaf

“MSNBC just announced the Media Meme for the Debate:

‘Perry FAILED!’”

Well, he said either 0bama was .... or he is a bald-faced liar. Props for that one ALONE.


1,499 posted on 09/07/2011 7:07:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: nascarnation

No, actually they appeared to be more with Perry not Romney. Thought he was too soft spoken and no gutsyness, which most want to see against Obama. The their were the ron Paul bots crying their eyes out because they thought e was being ignored...again. I took a few of them on...told them Ron Paul was a bookmarker in all the elections he just never told his people that.


1,500 posted on 09/07/2011 7:07:12 PM PDT by caww
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