Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck
Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.
Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.
Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.
As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.
I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.
It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.
I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.
I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.
Respectfully,
Huck
“Care to post a link to one of those? I was on FR all day long and never hopped on one of those “its fake” threads.”
Here’s one.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2713787/posts
On any site any where on the net you are going to see fringe trollers post wild conspiracy. FR cannot be faulted for fringe posts that are probably DUers and Daily Kaos paid bloggers.
This is being posted all over facebook.
Let’s be clear on this: OBAMA DID NOT KILL BIN LADEN.American Navy Seal’s did, who OBAMA just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to pay.OBAMA just happened to be in office when our Navy Seal Team found OsamaBL and took him out. Not a OBAMA victory, an AMERICAN victory! It was waterboarding that allowed intel for this to happen. Obama gives them funerals and miranda rights. REPOST IF YOU AGREE!!!
America is not stupid.
Sorry, this was misdirected, I intended it to go to the post author.
It was done bt Seattle P-I editorial cartoonist David Horsey. I have searched and searched, but I cannot find it.
The exact quote was “Give me a day to mourn my dead, and then I’ll go get my shotgun”.
Why would anyone dump the body of the biggest mass murderer in modern history where no one can get it? This is the only question that sticks in my craw.
Me too. I've been posting less and lurking more for that reason.
Me three
No dice. You need to fight for conservatism, not various versions of artifact provinance. A brief snapshot of philosphy: you can only believe evidence that you have in hand. You can believe other people's evidence if they have earned your trust in some way. While Obama does not have my trust, AP does to some extent. Their scan of the document negates the pixel size and other arguments (layers in the PDF version, etc). But I don't want to debate that here because that is not about "truth" at all, just about theories of artifacts which we can't personally examine. Much better to stick to the truth that Obama sucks and needs to be stopped by all methods at our disposal. Birtherism is one method, but a very ineffective one.
I celebrated, but left websites and the MSM were intent on turning Obama into some kind of Marlboro Man who did the job himself. I gave him credit for signing the order, but said I really wanted to shake the hand of the guy who pulled the trigger. But my celebration was muted by the left attitude of “C’mon, you got to give Obama his props.” No one ever gave Bush any “props” for anything. And there was little mention that the interrogation techniques at Gitmo got the intel needed for this mission....
I didn’t believe the short-form BC but I am leaning toward believing the just-released long form. Not sure how we prove it’s real or not.
As for Bin Laden, I deduced that if he wasn’t dead, he would let the world know (unless we just kidnapped him and are holding him in Area 51). Would Obama risk the truth coming out that he really wasn’t dead? How would that look? But mostly I think the SEALs would be up in arms if Obama and the administration was lying. I do question why Pakistan was not notified until after the raid unless the administration feels they can’t be trusted. If that is the case, stop sending them our money. If someone shows me a pic of what is supposed to be a dead Bin Laden, that won’t convince me because there are all sorts of photoshopped pics everywhere. I believe it’s true because of other evidence. But the Taliban are saying he isn’t really dead, so maybe you side with them.
Ok,that was a Sky News article. The posts looked about 50-50 each way. What’s the big deal? Why is this the end of Free Republic?
Nonsense. God hardened this wicked man's heart so that he could work His holy will with him.
Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Romans 9:2 -23
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
As a “denier”, I spent many hours explaining how tornadoes are caused by cool, dry air and strong jet streams, not “global warming”. Global warming will reduce tornadoes if that theory is true. And that is just the latest battle in a never ending war. It won’t stop with defeating Obama since so many RINOs have been infected.
That arrogant pontificator has been chastising people here for two days.
He is entitled to his opinion. I don’t care for group think and I don’t think people who don’t share his enthusiasm for reasons of their own, should be constantly derided.
Maybe he is part of Obama’s unity movement. If he is, he won’t get any from me. LOL
Yep, that is the truth. I am also a denier.
"...I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions..." - SEAL Code/Warrior Creed
Having said that, I am leaning extremely heavily towards believing that OBL is dead (besides being the resident Trust But VERIFY guy) mostly because of the arguments about the military guys and also because of the picture of the national defense team watching the mission in real time. 0bama and Hillary look so uncomfortable and out-of-place that it must be a real military mission and I don't think they would have been able to fake or nor would they have thought to hold onto it for a week or two if the mission had gone off earlier. To me that was fairly convincing.
So, I will defend my right to informed skepticism and I will not bow to those who think I am a conspiracy nut. They will have to prove that just as the govt will have to prove whatever story they are trying to tell me. I am an equal opportunity skeptic! ;0)
100% agree with Huck.
Photos can be checked for photoshopping just as “birth certificates” can.
We’ve already had one photoshopped photo of a dead Osama. Unfortunately, the digital capabilities we have now make analysis a necessity.
When the POTUS presents to everybody an image of a 1961 official document that has kerning and has been scanned in a format that allows manipulation.... it reduces the credibility of both him and everybody who went along with his charade. That’s just a natural fact of life.
I'm glad he is gone but I loathe my president now more than ever and fear for the future after seeing these idiots the other night.
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