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To: paulycy

I didn’t believe the short-form BC but I am leaning toward believing the just-released long form. Not sure how we prove it’s real or not.

As for Bin Laden, I deduced that if he wasn’t dead, he would let the world know (unless we just kidnapped him and are holding him in Area 51). Would Obama risk the truth coming out that he really wasn’t dead? How would that look? But mostly I think the SEALs would be up in arms if Obama and the administration was lying. I do question why Pakistan was not notified until after the raid unless the administration feels they can’t be trusted. If that is the case, stop sending them our money. If someone shows me a pic of what is supposed to be a dead Bin Laden, that won’t convince me because there are all sorts of photoshopped pics everywhere. I believe it’s true because of other evidence. But the Taliban are saying he isn’t really dead, so maybe you side with them.


369 posted on 05/03/2011 7:54:49 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I think the BC is BS based on my own fact finding.

Having said that, I am leaning extremely heavily towards believing that OBL is dead (besides being the resident Trust But VERIFY guy) mostly because of the arguments about the military guys and also because of the picture of the national defense team watching the mission in real time. 0bama and Hillary look so uncomfortable and out-of-place that it must be a real military mission and I don't think they would have been able to fake or nor would they have thought to hold onto it for a week or two if the mission had gone off earlier. To me that was fairly convincing.

So, I will defend my right to informed skepticism and I will not bow to those who think I am a conspiracy nut. They will have to prove that just as the govt will have to prove whatever story they are trying to tell me. I am an equal opportunity skeptic! ;0)

377 posted on 05/03/2011 8:04:01 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I didn’t believe the short-form BC but I am leaning toward believing the just-released long form. Not sure how we prove it’s real or not.

The BC is simple: Either Hawaii stands behind it (both the short and long form) or they don't. Document forensics is pointless. It's quite clear Obama was born in Hawaii. We have the contemporaneous birth announcements. We have the failure of Hawaii to alert the Bush DoJ in 2008 to Obama's fraud. We have statements by Hawaiian officials that label the notion he wasn't born there silly.

Now in the case of OBL's rubbing out, we don't have the State of Hawaii. But we do have Obama's account of what went down. If it's false in any significant way, there are plenty of military and CIA officers who would know and who would have the strong inclination, indeed the duty, to blow the whistle and blow up the Administration. So my guess is it's true.

What I'm wondering about is the fact the CIA had zeroed in on OBL's fancy hideout (built in 2005), almost nine months ago. You know the ISI had to be aware of the hideout and had to have noticed the CIA's interest in it. Yet, despite having tolerated his presence without ratting him out to the CIA (who supposedly found the compound by watching a courier they had learned of via waterboarding in rendition prisons in 2007) the Pakis failed to warn him in time to escape to his cave in Waziristan. There's a lot yet to be told.

616 posted on 05/03/2011 11:29:58 AM PDT by cynwoody
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