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"If FR dies, that’s that." - Jim Robinson [Jim's reply at post # 588]
freerepublic.com ^ | 1/11/11 | paulycy

Posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by paulycy

FYI -

Here are statements from Jim about the future of FreeRepublic.com for those who missed them. They are quite serious.

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"Well, I can say that there are definitely two things that will never happen. 1) Banner ads. 2) Oracle [a completely new database system.] And a third is a total replacement [of the current damaged system.] Don’t have the financial wherewithal."

"To those who wish to leave because of it, see ya."

"If FR dies, that’s that."

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[To: paulycy]

Hey, you want us to get an all new system with all new software and add a few more pricey techs, system programmers and database administrators to keep it all working 100% of the time 24/7/365? Well, start coughing up the big bucks.

It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll. Once you take on a big load of expensive overhead, there’s no going back. As it is, we get a couple thousand donations per quarter averaging about $30 bucks each and there’s no guarantees we can cover this quarter’s expenses much less next quarter. We’re on a pay as we go system and we have zero employees.We just ask for enough to pay the bills.

Throwing more money at the problem won’t solve it. [This latest glitch] was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we’re not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he’s pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he’s an expert in them.

And no, we are not going to throw out our software and rewrite it and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job and not without hiring a staff to build and maintain it and that’s for sure. And we don’t have the financial wherewithal to do any of that anyway. Maybe if we had a couple million bucks at our disposal and a couple years to do it in we could build an iron-clad system. And maybe not.

All I can say is, if someone else can do it better and cheaper, then please step right on up and get ‘er done!! I’ll bow out and retire. Thankyouverymuch.

Hit it boys:

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/

And no, we have no plans of taking FR commercial. I like it the way it is. Not sure I could handle getting rich.

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- Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2653583/posts?page=168#168


TOPICS: Breaking News; Free Republic
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; defragthedatabase; fr; freepathons; freerepublic; future; glitch; ilovefr; jimrob; metmom; netizen; raid10
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree


301 posted on 01/11/2011 7:53:13 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: driftdiver

I do know what I am talking about, we host with dedicated servers and we use SQL Server, we don’t have to pay the high prices of SQL Server, but get it’s amazing performance.

http://www.serverintellect.com/

I am not from that company, we just use them, trust me, you don’t need 90K per quarter to host forums, even high volume ones.


302 posted on 01/11/2011 7:53:25 AM PST by Scythian
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To: paulycy

Here’s my 2 cents. I’ve been here for a long time. I rarely post articles, I occasionally comment on articles. I probably have donated a very few dollars to FR, but not recently. I have decided what few political dollars I have to spend will go to political candidates who are conservative, and have a good chance to win. No matter how good of a candidate you are, if your opponent is running 10 TV ads to your one, you’ll probably lose. Our guys need money to compete, so all of my political budget has been going there.

As for FR, I like this site, I come here for news, but rarely donate. I think that’s something that could be financed through a few ads, or such, plus like I said, I think our candidates need the money more. Furthermore, I don’t want to donate money, and then be banned because I spoke out of turn about Sarah Palin or DADT. If we want win in the arena of ideas, we have to spend some time debating the other team, and hone our arguments. Who knows, you might even convert a few of them. If you run off everyone with a moderately different viewpoint, the site becomes stale and boring.


303 posted on 01/11/2011 7:53:34 AM PST by Big E
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To: certrtwngnut
I have been here only 3+ years & just made my first contribution.

Thank you.

Thank you very, very much.

304 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:16 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I visit because I'm a news junkie. Any other insults you want to hurl?

You are mistaking problems with slow response with the look and feel of Free Republic. IMO the look and feel is just dandy. Apparently you don't like it, too old fashioned. You've made your point.

305 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Scythian
all honestly that's a shit-load of money, we host for far, far cheaper, a fraction of the cost actually. It's costing the FR almost a half mill to host per year? You can do the same for pennies on the dollar.

agreed. sounds odd.

306 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:31 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: paulycy

Why would Jim or anyone else say no to a donation from a wealthy person from the right side of the isle?

We know neither of us speak for other people much less Jim Robinson, but I doubt if some financial giants with the means to donate bigger sums came along that he would be offended.

I have always wondered why there are seemingly no financial whales donating to this site which has obviously been the foundation for MANY wonderful conservative efforts. In some ways that never made sense to me.


307 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:33 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: paulycy

If FR dies, it goes away forever unless something changes. Is this acceptable to us?
FR is currently seriously underfunded. This is something we FReepers can do something about.

Comments? Suggestions?

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I really appreciate you getting this out there. This is the site I turn to first for news and in fact, I rarely read any other news sites as I used to.

That said I was participating heavily 2 & 3 FReepathons ago with sponships etc. and then I found a disturbing trend during the last FReepathon that caused me to back off.

It’s not you or your fault, I’m simply replying to your post because it’s easier and I want to get the information out there for others to see.

I had been adding posts into some popular threads simply saying that ‘FReeper so & so’(name withheld as it isn’t important) was sponsoring X number of folks - contact this person and you’d know money had been donated for you, which for folks that can’t donate right now is pretty cool.

I got some of the worst, rudest and harshest FReepmail I have ever received over this! One of the tamer ones came from a very, very prolific poster here and said something along the lines of “I’m too busy for your s***, take it off my threads”.

Now this wasn’t hurting anyone and is similar to the items other FReepers have posted on this thread. I think it’s helpful because if I couldn’t donate, I’d like to see a notice saying some other FReeper would happily do so for me.

So sadly the attitude expressed in those FReepmails turned me off to anything other than just doing my monthly $1 a day plus gig. It’s sad when attitudes like that from frequent posters cause problems, but there you have it. If I’ve experienced it maybe others have also.


308 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:48 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Running off posters with differing viewpoints has consequences.

So does the Republicans idea of a Big Tent. How are those Rinos working out for ya?

309 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:53 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: JoeProBono

That is beautiful. Take it to Barnes & Noble and Starbucks and organic food stores. lol.


310 posted on 01/11/2011 7:55:19 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: herewego

Some new t- shirts would be nice. My old FR shirts are worn out.


311 posted on 01/11/2011 7:55:33 AM PST by herewego ( Got .45?)
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To: CottonBall

$.25 per post might make some think if what they are about to say is worth saying. Just saying...


312 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:10 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: IndyTiger
The constant fundraisers are distracting to me.

But ads won't be? *sigh*

313 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:29 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: RedMDer; All

Help Keep the
"Conservative News and Views"
on FR coming by "Clicking Here"!!

314 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:44 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Ripliancum

Esplains your complaint. I am not a single issue visitor. I like a full cross section of info. Mainly, Breaking and current events.


315 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:50 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: MinuteGal
Why on earth FR HAS to have a Religious Forum beats me.

Fly paper. The Religion Forum was created to pull such topics out of News/Activism.

316 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:56 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: driftdiver

I do know what I am talking about, we host with dedicated servers and we use SQL Server, we don’t have to pay the high prices of SQL Server, but get it’s amazing performance.

http://www.serverintellect.com/

I am not from that company, we just use them, trust me, you don’t need 90K per quarter to host forums, even high volume ones.


317 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:56 AM PST by Scythian
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To: A CA Guy
I have always wondered why there are seemingly no financial whales donating to this site which has obviously been the foundation for MANY wonderful conservative efforts. In some ways that never made sense to me.

I can't read Jim's mind, and he is a man of few words.

318 posted on 01/11/2011 7:57:01 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: matt1234; Celtic Cross

No, that was CS’s relative, Celtic Crosshairs, a second cousin once removed (but he came back anyway).


319 posted on 01/11/2011 7:57:18 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Let anyone read the truth. Let subsribers post.


320 posted on 01/11/2011 7:57:28 AM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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