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One senior retired Air Force General went on solid, experienced record that this was an unmistakable missile and the directional change used to discredit the thought was usual course correction that missiles do and NOT an aircraft.

So much Media smoke screening by various pundits cannot hide the obvious fire behind their frantic efforts to try to deny the obvious.

The only other logical option would be to posit it was a Russian not Chinese submarine but missile control secrets lost to the Chinese during Clinton's administration points more at their being the launchers.

Advocating it was the USA under orders from Obama is too "tinfoil hat" even for this wacky administration.

1 posted on 11/13/2010 1:43:00 PM PST by FARS
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Think about it!


2 posted on 11/13/2010 1:46:09 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: FARS

IF this was a missle, then

there just might—MIGHT—be a connection between the world economic meeting in Seoul, and the news today that North Korea has or is working on a sub-launched ICBM (perhaps just a simple arrangement in which an ordinary sub tows a launch pad behind it; it may even surface to launch).


3 posted on 11/13/2010 1:46:31 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: FARS

IBTZ


4 posted on 11/13/2010 1:50:00 PM PST by shove_it (just undo it)
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I'm in the camp of people who think it was a missile. I heard the pundits float the idea that the US was demonstrating to the world our awesome ability to fire a missile from a sub. Ummmm. We've been able to do that since before I was born. Stupid pundits.

The highest ranking experts I've seen go on record (Ellsworth, McInerny, Janes Defense) all say it's a missile. The people who say it was Hawaii Flight 808 seem to be basically nobodies.

Bottomline: our government is not trustworthy.

5 posted on 11/13/2010 1:50:23 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Remember, whatever goes up must come down. If these were missiles, where did they come down?


6 posted on 11/13/2010 1:51:13 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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I think it was absolutely a missile launch. If there were a better explanation, don’t you think we’d be hearing it on the MSM? After all there are a number or air traffic control radars in the LA area that would have this track, so folks who work in ATC would know where it came from and other details. Isn’t it odd that no one has popped a few too many beers and picked up the phone to a radio talk show or anything?

And what’s the deal on that helo in some of the video - looks like a dual-rotor helo to me, and that’s not what the TV news crews fly.


8 posted on 11/13/2010 1:53:52 PM PST by bigbob
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Tell me, do you really think that this is an airliner and not a missile launch, as the Jane's expert is calling it and as the former Under Secretary of Defense is calling it???


More photos here: http://state-of-the-nation.com/

9 posted on 11/13/2010 1:56:22 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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I don’t think it could be anything but a missile.
What I question is the trajectory.
Did it fly over the US? If so I say it was either a mistake/inadvertent launch or not a US missile.
I don’t believe we would knowingly test a missile over US territory. I’d bet on it.


15 posted on 11/13/2010 2:02:28 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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It was a missle, and unless one of ours cooked off accidently it was someone else's missle.

We have an idiot as commander in chief and the whole world knows it.

18 posted on 11/13/2010 2:04:56 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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19 posted on 11/13/2010 2:07:01 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: FARS

I think it was one of ours...


35 posted on 11/13/2010 2:16:30 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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What if it was one of OUR missiles launched by the Chinese or the Russians?


37 posted on 11/13/2010 2:16:36 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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There have been 29 previous posts on this ‘missile.’

They started running out of new things to say around 20.


40 posted on 11/13/2010 2:17:57 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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It is worse than your think...there have been at least 3 launches!!

 Original "launch" last Monday, this "launch" on Tuesday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJi2L4QC_fk

 

 And this "launch" on Dec. 31st, 2009:

http://contrailscience.com/

http://contrailscience.com/

50 posted on 11/13/2010 2:25:58 PM PST by Drago
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“One senior retired Air Force General “

Who and link, please.


65 posted on 11/13/2010 2:33:06 PM PST by Hulka
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Until new information presents itself, there really is nothing else to say. Let me know when some eyewitnesses from the boats in the area come forward.


73 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:11 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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Missile Truthers.

I am so tired of this idiocy. But obviously not tired enough to quit responding to it.

Repeat after me: Airplane contrail.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

74 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:26 PM PST by The Comedian (I enjoy progressives, especially in a light cream sauce.)
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The homogeneity of the contrail argues against an airplane.
The atmosphere is rarely moist enought throughout its depth to display such a thick and uninterrupted contrail. (Former Meteorologist here folks)

Further, an aircraft contrail doesn’t produce such a thick single plume as is indicated by the video. This is so obviously a missile plume that the airplane theory has to laughed off the page.

The question remains: Who and Why?


75 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:42 PM PST by CARTOUCHE
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One senior retired Air Force General went on solid, experienced record

Who was that?

87 posted on 11/13/2010 2:46:59 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: FARS; y'all

Highly recommend....

http://contrailscience.com/


108 posted on 11/13/2010 3:10:01 PM PST by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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