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Karl Rove's Flameout
Daily Beast via Yahoo News ^ | 10/22/10 | Matt Latimer

Posted on 10/22/2010 9:09:58 AM PDT by Enchante

In primaries this year, Republican voters in Alaska, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Nevada, and Utah, have rejected—en masse—the candidates preferred by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which Rove is said to informally advise. The Conservative Party candidate Tom Tancredo—a known enemy of Rove—is trouncing the GOP-backed candidate in the race for governor of Colorado.

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Latimer is no fan of Rove -- I certainly agree with a lot of his criticisms although attributing every problem to Rove may be a bit over the top -- but the Rs had great opportunities in the past decade which Rove helped to squander.

The Rove meltdown against Christine O'Donnell showed what he's all about, although ironically it probably helped her to raise several million dollars -- but that could have been achieved without trashing her in ways so useful to the 'Rats.

1 posted on 10/22/2010 9:10:01 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

The fat RINO is still usefull; his Crossroads organization has raised a lot of money to help the Republicans get candidates elected in the midterms. The Republican Party could potentially be useful as well in stopping Obozo’s agenda from moving through Congress.


2 posted on 10/22/2010 9:14:41 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Enchante

Rove is a political professional who feels personally threatened by the grass roots Tea Party phenomenon which, of course, functions more closely to the political process the Founders envisioned.


3 posted on 10/22/2010 9:16:25 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Enchante

Rove is an Open Borders Liberal Globalist....he is no conservative...and does not help the conservative cause.

He must be squirming severly knowing that Tom Tancredo may win the governorship of Colorado running third party. Rove hated Tancredo because Tanc was a big roadblock to Rove/Bush Open Borders Anti-Americanism

For the GOP to thrive and survive, it needs to kick out the liberals like Rove


4 posted on 10/22/2010 9:20:02 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (They don't let you build churches in Mecca)
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To: Enchante

I have never understood why this man or others in his line of work are considered to be politcal geniuses. I have listened to him and to Dick Morris or James
Carville and some others who have run or been closely involved in political matters and I don’t hear any great insights or understanding that I can’t find on these threads most days of the week.


5 posted on 10/22/2010 9:27:58 AM PDT by scory
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To: Enchante
I don't attribute all of the GOP problems to Rove, but a lot of them are owned by him. McCain included. Sure ... Rove is a smart tactician, but he doesn't have the values that I have as a conservative which include less government, family oriented value driven beliefs (pro-life), etc. To be blunt and judgmental about it, Rove is largely responsible for the current Demo controlled Congress and Obama in the White House.
6 posted on 10/22/2010 9:30:00 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Enchante

“The Rove meltdown against Christine O’Donnell...”


RINO ROVE was unveiled with that meltdown, for all those who may have naievely thought Rove was ever on our side. No wonder Bush got into so much trouble, following advisor Rove’s ideas. Bush became beige, neutralized, middle of the road on so many issues that he could have resolved, or at least pounded to death in favor of conservatism. Rove hurt Bush and he hurts us.


7 posted on 10/22/2010 9:30:10 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: scory
You beat me to it. People like Carville or Rove want to win. That's all.

Now, there can be advantages to having a guy like that on your team, but if anyone is looking for wisdom or insights about what the country needs in order to prosper, you don't go to someone like Carville or Rove. What do they know about that stuff?

They just get paid to persuade people and (hopefully) win elections. That doesn't mean they understand anything at all outside their little area.

And it certainly presents the possibility that they will be petulant and hurt if their guy loses and someone else comes up as a Winner. They may well strike out at such a person, just as a childish reaction. Again, it doesn't mean they have any deep insight into political philosophy. They're just mad they lost.

8 posted on 10/22/2010 9:32:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Enchante
I despise rove... he is a power elite liberal rockefeller/ford republican... he is the enemy within and all like him should be purged.

LLS

9 posted on 10/22/2010 9:35:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Enchante

I would add Marco Rubio in FL to the list of Tea Party candidates that knocked off the “GOP establishment” candidate.


10 posted on 10/22/2010 9:37:18 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: Enchante

Rove’s one notable success will likely be the victory of communist Chris Coons and the defeat of Christine O’Donnell. Of course, he also had help from the RNC in making certain voters knew Christine was on her own and doing almost nothing at all to help her put together a winning campaign.

This will be a lesson to other upstarts who might dare challange the system.


11 posted on 10/22/2010 9:37:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take any more beatings.)
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To: Enchante

but the Rs had great opportunities in the past decade which Rove helped to squander.
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This is the central point we conservatives have to remember about Rove. Rove as I understand it was the most important political advisor to Bush. Opportunities squandered (and I had waited 1/2 a lifetime to see a Republican President, Congress and Senate at one time to make changes):

1) Balance the Budget
2) Reduce Government Spending
3) Reform Entitlements
4) Defund the left
5) Protect the borders and reform immigration laws post 9/11
6) Crack down on voter fraud

The first three would have required courage and political capital but would have saved the country; the last three would have been wildly popular except with the far left and the 30% that are led by them and it’s flabbergasting that they didn’t do them.

Rove advised Bush to be the biggest of big governement Republicans, if results (and Rove’s behavior now) are indications. Rove helped crash the economy and usher in Obama. Worst of all, he helped squash a historic opportunity to show that Republican principles and policies are superior to Democratic principles and policies. “We” had not had that opportunity since what, Hoover? Eisenhower?


12 posted on 10/22/2010 9:39:26 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Enchante

Yeah! Rove made her say that scientists are splicing animal and human genes and they now have a “rat with a fully developed human brain.” He has ruined her! Rove even supplied them with the quote from the Bill Mahr show.
Outrageous!


13 posted on 10/22/2010 9:39:26 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: GOPsterinMA

Idiot - don’t press “Post” to quickly.

“I would add Marco Rubio in FL AS THE FIRST OF the list of Tea Party candidates that knocked off the “GOP establishment” candidates.”


14 posted on 10/22/2010 9:40:34 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: scory
Rove can raise money as he has shown this cycle. His problem is his big love of the GOP establishment. He also doesn't like how the TEA party members have changed the rules of the game but unless he ditches his big government, rat-lite tendencies he'll end up in the tall weeds.
15 posted on 10/22/2010 9:41:20 AM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: Enchante
I sat agape watching Rove melt-down in a ranting rave against Christine O'Donnell.....and wondered why he didn't go into such a rage against the malicious attacks on GW and Republicans in general back in the day.

Is he a Doctor Jackal now......after being Mr. Hide in the Bush administration?

Leni

16 posted on 10/22/2010 9:41:40 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Are any Americans better off than they were 13 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; dervish; ...

Thanks Enchante. Rove’s still a magnificent bastard.


17 posted on 10/22/2010 9:42:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Enchante

Rove’s organisation is helping getting conservatives elected.

What has Christine Donnell done for conservatives?

All she has done is waste tea party money and headed for certain defeat to a marxist in Delaware thanks to her lousy campaign skills.


18 posted on 10/22/2010 9:44:02 AM PDT by GregH
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To: Nonstatist

Let him help in the general—until he makes it official and goes Democrat. In the primaries, a good rule of thumb is to do whatever Rove doesn’t want us to do. He’s the genius who insisted we stick with Specter, vote for Castle and gave us Republican progressivism through Bush.


19 posted on 10/22/2010 9:46:42 AM PDT by Defiant (I'm a Fabian Co nstitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
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To: steelyourfaith

If you liked George Bush GOP Light style of government you will LOVE Roves kind of candidate. Globalist, open borders, insurance, banking and Wall Street. No thanks.


20 posted on 10/22/2010 9:47:03 AM PDT by mono
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