Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.
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Correct. They even changed the Department of Homelands brochure to try to hide it ( the only part in the brochure they did change )
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From the new Department of Homelands brochure:
The state Department of Health, the state Archives, and the state Bureau of Conveyances are just a few places where you can look for and obtain primary and secondary documents. Certified copies of records can be obtained for a fee.
Now, how do they define primary documents ?
Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
So, you can see. You can still request a certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. In the new brochure, they just omitted the detailed process ( as described in the old one ) of how to do it.
Okubo also made the statement:
At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting
That just proves that all the information in the original Certificate of Live Birth is still available. How do I know this ? It is the law in Hawaii. From the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.
So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.
The Sanity Squad is the name of my ping list. Get over it.
No, JimRob is not on my ping list, but those who are have been freepers longer than most and a decade longer than I.
I’m aware of Jim’s public statements on the eligibility issue.
And, yes, JimRob does allow the debate to take place on these threads. He told me so himself. To think otherwise is ridiculous. Who do you think runs this place and gives the mods their authority and direction?
I don’t give rat’s butt about the BC. You are free to do so.
Many of those who are ... not those who are. Either way, all have been here years longer than I.
Many of those who are ... not those who are. Either way, all have been here years longer than I.
Please place me on the sanity- squad ping list. I have found sanity hard to come by lately
I know Lucas Smith stuff is no longer allowed on this board so if you want to pull this go ahead. I did think this recent post from Lucas on his site is important as it once again verifies his insanity:
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InspectorSmith (6 days ago) Spam
I look forward to the day that George W Bush is executed in the same manner that he executed the President of Iraq. Not that I fancy muslims or Islam, I don't.
I look forward to the day when de facto President Obama is deported to Kenya or Zanzibar. I do not wish Obama any physical harm or imprisonment. I only ask that he be deported promptly to Kenya or Zanzibar.
If anyone wants a free copy of the book "1984" or "Brave New World" I will send you the book(s) free of charge. I have stacks of each book that I used to sell on eBay.
Wow. What a freak.
Wow. What a freak.
I've been in that camp from pretty much day one, however, we're assuming that Barky Sr. is really his father.
What if that's not what the BC says?
In that respect, the BC is relevant, to me anyway.
Well stated, Star.
The BC is relevant because it will prove Obama has committed fraud. While Congress might resist a Constitutional conflict over Obama’s ineligibility (as the son of a foreign national), it’s much harder to ignore an act of criminal fraud. The BC matters.
Here's another sarcasm of your posts: "Fair enough. I may be stupid, or dense, or misguided - those are all nicer than what my wife of 23 years was saying the other day - but I’m not a traitor."
Oh, I forgot this issue is off limits on FR so you got to run back crying to the big Kahuna that somebody "hit" you badly. and regarding your last five/six words above, I highly disagree referring to to the headlines on this very thread that you are watching 24/7!!!
and for what, five days now??
I've never seen someone work so hard to defeat an issue they profess to think is so stupid, or cowardly, or tin foil hat, or...
Extremely interesting that he and the strange crossed out name on SAD's Passport applications was dropped and the conveniently disappearance of previous applications, hmmm!!!
Then I would be eating a healthy serving of crow.
Note the picture of Junior with Senior at age 10 on Senior's one and only visit. What purpose could that possibly have served if Senior weren't his father? Notice how Junior drapes Senior's arm around himself desperately longing for a connection to him and the proud look on Junior's face.
Note the confirmation of Dunham's and Obama's attendance at the university in Hawaii during the same timeframe.
Note the marriage index data released from Hawaii for the Dunham-Obama marriage. Note the divorce decree released for the Dunham-Obama marriage.
Note the trips to Kenya by Junior. Why go (well before he declared his candidacy for POTUS) if he didn't truly believe Senior was his father?
Note the Sarah Obama phone call.
I'll stop there, but there's more. There is more evidence to support Senior being Junior's father than not. There is no evidence to support someone else as Obama's father. There is only suspicion and speculation.
I know the BC is important to some. It's just not to me. I'm convinced that Senior is Junior's biological father. So it doesn't matter to me where he was born.
Then I would be eating a healthy serving of crow.
Note the picture of Junior with Senior at age 10 on Senior's one and only visit. What purpose could that possibly have served if Senior weren't his father? Notice how Junior drapes Senior's arm around himself desperately longing for a connection to him and the proud look on Junior's face.
Note the confirmation of Dunham's and Obama's attendance at the university in Hawaii during the same timeframe.
Note the marriage index data released from Hawaii for the Dunham-Obama marriage. Note the divorce decree released for the Dunham-Obama marriage.
Note the trips to Kenya by Junior. Why go (well before he declared his candidacy for POTUS) if he didn't truly believe Senior was his father?
Note the Sarah Obama phone call.
I'll stop there, but there's more. There is more evidence to support Senior being Junior's father than not. There is no evidence to support someone else as Obama's father. There is only suspicion and speculation.
I know the BC is important to some. It's just not to me. I'm convinced that Senior is Junior's biological father. So it doesn't matter to me where he was born.
I tend to agree, problem is he hasn't proved it.
And we all know, the bamster never lies....
When a man goes through the lengths he has to hide his past, it leaves a whole lot of room for doubt and speculation.
WE have the right to know everything about the POTUS, BC included.
Stalking again, danamco?
Look precious, I don’t know how make this any clearer. Obama’s adoption by Lolo doesn’t negate his U.S. citizenship at birth. It also doesn’t negate his British citizenship at birth. If you think it does, then Obama Sr.’s foreign citizenship should be irrelevant to you! If an adoption erases one, it erases both.
His parents cannot renounce his American citizenship for him, actively or passively. One can and may renounce one’s citizenship only upon the age of majority. There’s no record that Obama Jr. did so.
I know what you mean.
Everything about this pos is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.
I really don't know why there aren't many more people out there demanding to know what the truth is, especially in view of what he is doing to this Country.
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