Correct. They even changed the Department of Homelands brochure to try to hide it ( the only part in the brochure they did change )
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From the new Department of Homelands brochure:
The state Department of Health, the state Archives, and the state Bureau of Conveyances are just a few places where you can look for and obtain primary and secondary documents. Certified copies of records can be obtained for a fee.
Now, how do they define primary documents ?
Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
So, you can see. You can still request a certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. In the new brochure, they just omitted the detailed process ( as described in the old one ) of how to do it.
Okubo also made the statement:
At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting
That just proves that all the information in the original Certificate of Live Birth is still available. How do I know this ? It is the law in Hawaii. From the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.
So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.
I know Lucas Smith stuff is no longer allowed on this board so if you want to pull this go ahead. I did think this recent post from Lucas on his site is important as it once again verifies his insanity:
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InspectorSmith (6 days ago) Spam
I look forward to the day that George W Bush is executed in the same manner that he executed the President of Iraq. Not that I fancy muslims or Islam, I don't.
I look forward to the day when de facto President Obama is deported to Kenya or Zanzibar. I do not wish Obama any physical harm or imprisonment. I only ask that he be deported promptly to Kenya or Zanzibar.
If anyone wants a free copy of the book "1984" or "Brave New World" I will send you the book(s) free of charge. I have stacks of each book that I used to sell on eBay.
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"Now, how do they define primary documents ?
Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
So, you can see. You can still request a certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. In the new brochure, they just omitted the detailed process ( as described in the old one ) of how to do it."
Take heed about the truth you guys at obamaCONspiracy.org who are monitoring this thread that Hawaii issues long form birth certificates. Come out of your delusions.