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To: Las Vegas Ron
What if that's not what the BC says?

Then I would be eating a healthy serving of crow.

Note the picture of Junior with Senior at age 10 on Senior's one and only visit. What purpose could that possibly have served if Senior weren't his father? Notice how Junior drapes Senior's arm around himself desperately longing for a connection to him and the proud look on Junior's face.

Note the confirmation of Dunham's and Obama's attendance at the university in Hawaii during the same timeframe.

Note the marriage index data released from Hawaii for the Dunham-Obama marriage. Note the divorce decree released for the Dunham-Obama marriage.

Note the trips to Kenya by Junior. Why go (well before he declared his candidacy for POTUS) if he didn't truly believe Senior was his father?

Note the Sarah Obama phone call.

I'll stop there, but there's more. There is more evidence to support Senior being Junior's father than not. There is no evidence to support someone else as Obama's father. There is only suspicion and speculation.

I know the BC is important to some. It's just not to me. I'm convinced that Senior is Junior's biological father. So it doesn't matter to me where he was born.

1,415 posted on 10/21/2010 9:20:16 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I'm convinced that Senior is Junior's biological father. So it doesn't matter to me where he was born.

I tend to agree, problem is he hasn't proved it.

And we all know, the bamster never lies....

When a man goes through the lengths he has to hide his past, it leaves a whole lot of room for doubt and speculation.

WE have the right to know everything about the POTUS, BC included.

1,417 posted on 10/21/2010 9:30:11 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremists use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Note the picture of Junior with Senior at age 10 on Senior’s one and only visit. What purpose could that possibly have served if Senior weren’t his father? Notice how Junior drapes Senior’s arm around himself desperately longing for a connection to him and the proud look on Junior’s face.
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Is this a joke? Please tell me you’re joking. I don’t see any of that in that photo. Maybe that’s what you want to see.


1,494 posted on 10/21/2010 2:46:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; little jeremiah; Red Steel

I’m convinced that Senior is Junior’s biological father. So it doesn’t matter to me where he was born.
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I’m not convinced but I wouldn’t say he wasn’t either. I don’t know. I think there is a possibility that Gramps is really Dad.

There are so many things that are strange.

Why are there no photos of Mom and baby when he was a newborn. NONE! None with the grandparents either. Why are there no photos of him with Senior until he was 10 years old?

Why did Mom send Barry back to Hawaii at the exact same time that FMD got a divorce and his wife left him?

Why did Gramps take Barry with him to spend so much time with a pervert Communist that was being watched by the FBI?

Why did Gramps hang out in black bars? Who was the black bar maid that Barry speaks of in his book?

Why was Mom in WA enrolled in college when Barry was an newborn? A new baby, newlyweds, yet no photos, Senior was MIA.

Why does no one in Hawaii ever recall seeing Anne with Senior?

In Dreams....The part about finding his birth certificate in a book... so important he mentioned it but he lost it? I think that was deliberately put there to validate he had one.

The break in of his passport files.

The death of the gay boys that were his pals at Trinity.

Why no pictures of Barry with any girls? NONE not a single one. No dances, no proms, no dinner dates, NONE! Only photos of him with girly boys. Plenty of those.

Why won’t he release his college records? Health records?

WAY too much hidden about this creep. His entire past is shrouded in mystery and inconsistencies. Therefore I trust none of it.

There isn’t a doubt in my mind he was gay and is now bi-sexual but still prefers men. If your gaydar doesn’t go off when you see that limp wristed sissy boy, then you aren’t watching.

I could go on and on and on. Oddly enough, when I read Dreams it made me even more suspicious than I was before. His own words( or those of Bill Ayers) created even more suspicions.


1,502 posted on 10/21/2010 3:01:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Note the trips to Kenya by Junior. Why go (well before he declared his candidacy for POTUS) if he didn’t truly believe Senior was his father?

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I think he did or does think Senior was his father. It
doesn’t mean he was and you know that.


1,503 posted on 10/21/2010 3:02:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
What purpose could that possibly have served if Senior weren't his father?

Money. A payoff.

Holiday season, 1971 -- Senior's mentor Tom Mboya had been assassinated, Senior was in disfavor in the government and on the way out -- and broke -- always broke -- and drunk -- always drunk. One goes with the other.

We KNOW the Dunhams paid Senior's air fare to travel half-way around the planet (when it was expensive), put him up in a rental apartment in their building, and gave him walking-around money.

Senior spent most of his time drinking with his old buddies from the "snack bar." The time he spent with "his family" was limited and filled with disharmony.

Senior himself described the trip as "family business."

The Dunhams were getting ready to put Barry Soetoro into Punahou. Whatever Senior was doing in Hawaii was connected to that -- my speculation is that it was to establish or re-establish paternity -- and as soon as the paperwork was complete and he got his payoff he returned to Kenya and never thought about the bunch of them for the rest of his miserable life.

1,740 posted on 10/23/2010 8:56:20 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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