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Retirement Fund Trillions Lure Government Grabbers (Obama coming after your 401k and IRA after all)
american thinker ^ | 9/14/10 | Peter Raymond

Posted on 09/14/2010 5:42:35 AM PDT by bestintxas

Is the government making plans to confiscate your retirement money? The Obama administration is certainly exploring the idea.

This question no longer seems far-fetched when the group-thinkers in Washington unabashedly promote a doctrine of wealth redistribution and central planning. These Keynesian socialists know they will need vast new sources of revenues to fund their relentless spending binges to "transform" this nation. A logical next step would be to legitimize the confiscation of private retirement assets; an idea that was contemplated in the recent past by the Clinton administration.

According to the Investment Company Institute, there was $7.835 trillion in IRA, 401K, 457, and 403b accounts in 2009. That is certainly too large a sum to be ignored by the big spending social engineers in Washington. Bureaucrats and politicians have been hard at work formulating a social justice excuse to legislate an historic seizure of private assets. This would not be the first time the statists extorted wealth from US citizens on a massive scale.

The public shakedown always employs a two step tactic to repeatedly dupe the malleable electorate. First, the statists fabricate and incessantly excoriate a contrived crisis of social injustice that is victimizing helpless and unknowing Americans. Next, they "craft"; a term Pelosi uses again and again, insidious legislation disguised as a necessary and compassionate solution that makes participation and universal funding compulsory by force of the law.

It is a simple and effective strategy that continues to trip up even the staunchest conservatives who ultimately succumb to the throng of propagandized constituents demanding

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quote from article: The US government plan is to eventually take ownership of all assets in IRAs and 401K accounts and replace them with US government "Treasury Retirement Bonds." In the October 2008 hearings, it was proposed that these bonds pay a 3% interest rate. Another major change is that, upon retirement, the individual's retirement account would be converted into an annuity.
1 posted on 09/14/2010 5:42:38 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Go ahead. Make my day.


2 posted on 09/14/2010 5:44:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: bestintxas

There will be blood spilled if this happens. Democrats are insane to think this will fly.


3 posted on 09/14/2010 5:45:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: bestintxas

Everyone’s 401(k) and IRA do not have any CASH in them.
To get any money at all, the SHARES will have to be sold on the OPEN MARKET to be liquidated.
If the government is THAT STUPID, we’re DOOMED.................


4 posted on 09/14/2010 5:45:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: MNJohnnie

DemocRats who support this will be _individually_ targeted for retribution.

It won’t matter how much “security” they have.


5 posted on 09/14/2010 5:46:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

they better do it suddenly and/or by stealth, or I predict much of that “$7 trillion” will flow into mattresses


6 posted on 09/14/2010 5:47:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Red Badger

Oh have no fear. They will just transfer ownership. They do no best after all.


7 posted on 09/14/2010 5:48:02 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Rahm and George at Doe's when the knife came down)
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To: Red Badger

No shares have to be sold. The ownership of those shares will be transferred.


8 posted on 09/14/2010 5:48:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MrB

Put your hands on my IRA and that is where they are going to stay.


9 posted on 09/14/2010 5:49:37 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: MNJohnnie

This has been in the air for sometime now. Methinks the hooligans are wanting you to pull out and get hit with the penalties? Who gets that anyway....?


10 posted on 09/14/2010 5:51:06 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Drill Thrawl; driftdiver

It doesn’t matter if the “transfer ownership”, they still cannot get any money to fund social security, Obamacare, union pensions or anything else unless these shares are sold to someone who will give them cash to sue. China? India? Russia? Zimbabwe?.............


11 posted on 09/14/2010 5:52:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

“If the government is THAT STUPID, we’re DOOMED.................”

ummmm..........yea


12 posted on 09/14/2010 5:52:39 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Drill Thrawl; driftdiver

sue = use.............


13 posted on 09/14/2010 5:52:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: bestintxas

Tada! Suckers. The government workers and employees will loot your arses of $$ if they do not get the pay Zero promised them. Right now treasuries which cannot be paid back are the only thing keeping their salaries and some spending in this economy. After this, it’s IRA and gold and gun confiscation... suckers.


14 posted on 09/14/2010 5:52:55 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: bestintxas

If it’s revolution we need, I can’t think of a better way to light the fuse on one than to try and seize people’s 401Ks an/or IRAs. I think that might just be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, because people realize those bonds aren’t fit to wipe one’s arse with and that money would be gone forever as soon as the Gubment gets their mitts on it.

As soon as that plan was announced, that 7 Trillion would evaporate overnight as people pull their money out before it is gone, and damn the penalty. Imagine the effect on the Markets if Premier Hussein triggers a panic run on retirement accounts, and people remove even a relatively small fraction of $7 Trillion from circulation and buy gold with it or just stuff the cash in a mattress.

Besides, can you imagine this crew getting their hands on that much liquid cash??!!

This scheme is a one-way ticket to a 4000 (or lower) Dow Jones Industrial Average, and is indeed one very good way to start us on a quick slide down the drain without even a courtesy lap around the bowl first.


15 posted on 09/14/2010 5:52:55 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: silverleaf

$7 trillion” will flow into mattresses

My % is already in a ‘mattress’ as of Jan 2009.

I saw this scenario back then and warned others.


16 posted on 09/14/2010 5:53:09 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: MNJohnnie
There will be blood spilled if this happens.

Wasn't the same said before the passage of 0bamaCare?

17 posted on 09/14/2010 5:53:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: bestintxas

Lock and Load

Μολὼν λαβέ

18 posted on 09/14/2010 5:54:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: driftdiver

They have to be sold if the gummi wants the cash.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 5:54:18 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Red Badger

Its all numbers in a computer. I hear what you’re saying but they will find a way to get their hands on that money and redistribute it.


20 posted on 09/14/2010 5:54:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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