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Dealing with citizens legally carrying a concealed weapon
policeone.com ^ | July 26, 2010 | Ron Avery

Posted on 07/28/2010 6:23:51 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought

As the ‘right to carry’ spreads across the United States, many law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease — and for some, outright alarm — at the idea of citizens carrying concealed weapons.

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Law abiding citizens do not expect to be treated like a felon — nor should they be. They will be angry if you prone them out, spread eagle them against a wall, or take their firearm from them without just cause. Good point to remember: A little thought and common sense goes a long way here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
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Note the author does not suggest shooting the law abiding citizen five times in the back.
1 posted on 07/28/2010 6:23:56 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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” .... law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease ... “

Starting tomorrow, 29 July 2010, anyone, except felons, can conceal and carry here in AZ!
(as I understand the new law).


2 posted on 07/28/2010 6:28:11 PM PDT by J Edgar
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Just goes to show how dumb many cops are, I have had many more years of pistol training than most cops... they need to be educated by their department. I will sue any department that deprives me of my rights!!!!!!


3 posted on 07/28/2010 6:28:34 PM PDT by MrPiper
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...at CCW school we were taught to tell the officer at once that you are armed...then do exactly as he says...that way he stays calm and you do too.


4 posted on 07/28/2010 6:29:57 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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That’s what we were taught.

“Officer, I have a concealed carry permit and I’m currently armed with X located X. Do you have any instructions for me?”

This usually diffuses the situation especially if you are in a car.


5 posted on 07/28/2010 6:32:35 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: STONEWALLS

I wouldn’t suggest saying “I have a gun”


6 posted on 07/28/2010 6:32:41 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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WAIT!!!! This can’t be real... We all know that the police are JACKBOOTED THUGZ!!!!!!!!! (TM) and will viciously attack all citizens for no reason whatsoever. They don’t want people carrying CCW and they will look for any reason to shoot CCWers. [/sarcasm]


7 posted on 07/28/2010 6:34:22 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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Other than a nervous DPS rookie in training during a traffic stop, every LEO I’ve announced my CCW to have been neutral or joking about how small it is (KelTec 32). I respond pass an Open Carry law and I’ll strap on a .41 Mag.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 6:35:28 PM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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I got pulled over here in SC a while back while carrying. I put my hands outside the car as he approached and informed him that I had a CCP and I was carrying. He asked me where I had the gun and that was it. No problem.


9 posted on 07/28/2010 6:36:57 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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Officer, I have a concealed carry permit and I’m currently armed with X located X. Do you have any instructions for me?

The permit is the 2nd amendment. Just carry a copy of the Bill of Rights.

10 posted on 07/28/2010 6:37:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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They will be angry if you prone them out, spread eagle them against a wall, or take their firearm from them without just cause.

Yes they will.

11 posted on 07/28/2010 6:37:33 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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Ridiculous. The CC license is issued by the local police chief, and you cannot get one if you have a criminal record. The only people who fear a law-abiding, armed citizenry are despots, tyrants, and bad cops.

So, if a cop comes out against CC, five will get you fifty you're looking at a scumbag. He'll probably end up on YouTube tasing some librarian or shooting a blind Latvian.

;-/

12 posted on 07/28/2010 6:38:19 PM PDT by Gargantua (The "Second Death")
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I’ve had 4 encounters with law enforcement here in CA over the last 10 years. 3 were for minor traffic issues in my local area, none of which resulted in citations. In CA we are required to notify we’re carrying. Not one of these officers even asked to see my weapon.

Once however, I was in the Oakland area outside my vehicle at a jobsite when I was approached by two chaps in a cruiser. They wanted to know why I was there. I told them I was carrying and presented my permit and license, to which they tackled me and removed my loaded Glock (without shooting thank goodness). They kept me there hours while they and whoever was at their office tried to find something to arrest me on. They eventually had to free me.

Not many (if any) CCW’s in Oakland.


13 posted on 07/28/2010 6:39:59 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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....”“Officer, I have a concealed carry permit and I’m currently armed with X located X. Do you have any instructions for me?”

...yep...and if it’s night time you turn on all the interior lights and place both hands up on the steering wheel where he can see ‘em....he’ll take over from there.


14 posted on 07/28/2010 6:40:25 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Well i don´t know about the american kind of law
but here in (austria) europe it´s this way.
The officers asks you if you allow him to search you (of course only if he/she has not seen you commiting a crime “but they have to prove that they have identified you).
You can refuse this!
They will do it anyway but they will think twice before they do it because if they found nothing they are in BIG trouble. They are only allowed to search you if they say they have seen you! But when they have “seen” you and then don´t find what they have seen they are in BIG TROUBLE!
But for the gun it´s just common here to tell the officers.
Please search me and you will find a gun. “just for warning” No big deal as long as you have the “papers”.


15 posted on 07/28/2010 6:41:04 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: STONEWALLS

I live in Ohio and that’s the law.


16 posted on 07/28/2010 6:43:10 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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You ca also hand him you Concealed carry permit along with your drivers license, that works. Often they say nothing, do not mention the gun, if its a traffic stop.

And believe me, many appreciate you being around if the shite goes down,and they are alone,especially if if there is a crowd of perps.But they have to ask you for help,remember that.

17 posted on 07/28/2010 6:44:54 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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...yep...and if it’s night time you turn on all the interior lights and place both hands up on the steering wheel where he can see ‘em....he’ll take over from there

I don't say squat..... write me a ticket. go ahead... I've never had me or the car searched for a speeding ticket...

18 posted on 07/28/2010 6:45:47 PM PDT by MrPiper
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As the ‘right to carry’ spreads across the United States, many law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease — and for some, outright alarm — at the idea of citizens carrying concealed weapons.

And the police aren't citizens?????

Let's all say this together, "The police get paid to protect us. We do not forfeit our rights to protect them." This is especially true when it is just about making them feel superior.

19 posted on 07/28/2010 6:46:08 PM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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As the ‘right to carry’ spreads across the United States, many law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease — and for some, outright alarm — at the idea of citizens carrying concealed weapons.

But, but, but... I thought that the police were our friends, could do no wrong, walked on water...

The sooner folks realize that while the cops may not be the enemy , they are not your friends either, the better off society as a whole will be.

20 posted on 07/28/2010 6:47:17 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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