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'Palestine existed in Syria, Turkey' [inhabited by Philistines]
Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/05/2010

Posted on 05/11/2010 5:28:12 AM PDT by SJackson

New finds from dig shed light on 11th, 12th Century BC dynasty.

The great kingdom of 'Palestine' once existed within Syrian and Turkish boundaries, Professor J.P Dessel of the University of Tennessee claimed in a statement released on Tuesday.

The professor, who is a member of the Tell Tayinat archeological digs in Turkey, who presided at the Haifa University Ancient East Research Conference, asserted that the commonwealth was located between the cities of Aleppo, Hama and Antakya and the Turkish-Syrian border in the 12th and 11th Centuries BC.

The significance of this find, which was being discussed in a special meeting, is that the ancient Philistine empire was not limited to the lands of Canaan.

Following the collapse of the Hittite dynasty in the 13th Century BC, smaller states sprung up in areas that were previously under Hittite rule, one of which was Palestine. In his lecture, Dessel explained that this was concluded from new-found evidence which was unearthed in the Tell Tayinat excavations.

Hittite hieroglyphics were found on the Antakya site reading "Palestine." Similar hieroglyphics were found in the cities of Aleppo and Hama

This is a significant discovery which shows that the Philistines did not just hold land in Israel, but in Syria as well," Haifa University's Professor Gershon Glil, the conference coordinator, said.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anatolia; catastrophism; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; kunulua; luwian; luwians; palastin; palestine; telltayinat; trojanwar
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1 posted on 05/11/2010 5:28:12 AM PDT by SJackson
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Philistines not to be confused with todays assortment of Arabs called palestinians. Many, ironically, known as South Syrians prevented from returning to Syria in the nakbah.

2 posted on 05/11/2010 5:30:15 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson

The Philistines were eventually incorporated into Judea and became Jews. So the land belongs to THE JEWS!............................


3 posted on 05/11/2010 5:33:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: SJackson

so the boundaries of a new palestinian state can include parts of Syria and Turkey

cool, let’s start the negotiations


4 posted on 05/11/2010 5:36:26 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: SJackson

For accuracy sake,wasn’t it Asia Minor, before it was Turkey?


5 posted on 05/11/2010 6:04:32 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: SJackson

So we can expect them to start firing rockets into Turkey now?


6 posted on 05/11/2010 6:56:02 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: SJackson; SunkenCiv

How many conquerors passed through this geographical area, leaving behind their jeans and genes?

Even Brian, the chosen One, was sired by a Roman soldier according to his mum. (ref: Life of Brian)


7 posted on 05/11/2010 8:29:55 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SJackson

If the Palis want to play the whole Occupied Lands then Lets go on about Constaninople.. It is a Christian City that occupied by the Turks.


8 posted on 05/11/2010 8:48:11 AM PDT by crazydad (What)
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The claim is ludicrous. Thanks wildbill. One of *those* topics.
 
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9 posted on 05/11/2010 6:51:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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10 posted on 05/11/2010 6:53:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SJackson

The Philistines are alive and well... at DU.


11 posted on 05/11/2010 7:30:58 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Tagline out- use detour)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hmmm. Noindoctrination.org got a student complaint about Prof. Dessel. Here's the commentary:

Comments: Prof Dessel is very cynical, and often inserts his own opinions about current world affairs into lectures that are supposed to be about world civilizations from their origins to 1500. For example, he often refers to the conflict with Iraq as "President Bush's war with Iraq." Once he even informed us that the only reason we were interested in removing Saddam was "for the oil." He also harps on the oppressor and the oppressed, and implies that the U.S. is no different from past empires, and always tries to use "class envy" throughout history and the present by explaining it in terms of the "haves" and "have nots," instead of actual historical events. On top of this, Prof Dessel discourages anyone from challenging his viewpoints.

http://noindoctrination.org/cgibin/display_record.cgi?uid=79

He also signed a petition by a bunch of academics who want the Israelis to kick Elad off the Jerusalem digs for "politicizing" Jerusalem archeology.

http://www.alt-arch.org/docs/petitiontext.txt

Dessel is a signer endorsing an attack by the Texas Freedom Network (a "mainstream voice to counter the Christian right") on a curriculum to teach the Bible as literature.

http://www.tfn.org/site/PageServer?pagename=endorsements

I'd say the Professor is a secular liberal pro-Pali Bush hater. Not that such views would incline one to find a Greater Palestine, mind you.

12 posted on 05/12/2010 6:08:32 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Wow, nice work! Thanks colorado tanker!


13 posted on 05/12/2010 7:14:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wish an objective, non-political, archaeologist would have looked at whatever evidence this guy looked at. While most people think the Philistines originated somewhere in the Mycenaean world (Cyprus?), some think they came out of the region of the Hittite Empire. Although the idea of a Philistine kingdom north of Lebanon seems absurd, what he saw, if indeed it is Philistine at all, could shed some light on origins.


14 posted on 05/13/2010 10:32:18 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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An investigation of this clown should begin, followed by a tenure hearing, and he should be booted and blackballed.


15 posted on 05/13/2010 3:32:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
Have you heard anything about “Syro-Palestinian” archeology? I only recently stumbled across the term.
16 posted on 05/14/2010 9:49:50 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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It’s part of the Greater Syria concept — the ethnically undifferentiated Arabs often referred to as “Palestinians” are, like the Lebanese, just another group to be integrated under rule by Damascus.


17 posted on 05/15/2010 10:07:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Red Badger

IIRC, the Philistines were not a Semitic people, and today’s DNA evidence does not indicate the interbred much with the locals.


18 posted on 05/15/2010 10:22:03 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: colorado tanker

Before the 1960s, the term ‘Palestinian’ almost always meant ‘Jew’!


19 posted on 05/15/2010 10:26:56 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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True, the Philistines were not Semitic, but, since there are no more Philistines to get a sample DNA from how would we distinguish their DNA from any others?................


20 posted on 05/17/2010 5:18:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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