[So is having money and resources]
You mean like this:
R.I.N.O.
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No sale, Ralph.
The Tea Party folks are doing just fine finding the self-evident path toward American Reformation without Dick's (or your) centralized "leadership".
Posted on 04/08/2010 10:05:17 AM PDT by Zakeet
Edited on 04/08/2010 10:20:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
In an effort to build its credibility and influence nationwide, the tea party movement on Thursday announced the formation of a "federation" of tea party groups.
Mark Shroder, a member of the Memphis Tea Party, told a crowd of roughly 200 conservative activists gathered outside the state capitol that 21 factions of the movement will form the National Federation Tea Party. Shroder said the federation will act as a "rapid response" to "misinformation" allegedly put forth by the "mainstream media."
(Excerpt) Read more at liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com ...
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Dick Armey’s Freedom Works is involved with this. I don’t trust them.
>>1) I recognized and admitted my mistake
>>5 minutes after I made it.
How long had you been living in the watershed?
>>There are two differences between us, Billy.
Oh far more than just Two, Ralph. Thank goodness.
I would have proposed "Tea Party Soviet" intending the classical definiton of "revolutionary council". The libs heads would have imploded.
It does say this in the article:
“But the conservative movement, which has prided itself on its refusal to formally merge with the Republican Party, refuted claims Thursday that the tea party seeks to form its own political party.
“That would be political suicide,” Mark Williams, chairman of Tea Party Express, told FoxNews.com. “America is a two party system and to create a third party is to reinvent the wheel. This federation was formed simply as a rapid response to put out brushfires in the mainstream media.”
That doesn’t sound like a third party is in the works right now....at least to some in this movement. Let’s hope they stick to it. We probably have to watch for ‘usurpers’ that want to blow the whole movement up from within though.
Agree 1000%
I agree. Sure wish the state GOP did. We wouldn’t be faced with another RINO sucking up all the oxygen at the state level.
Yep, I read that too. Skoda just doesn’t need to appoint himself the spokesman. Trouble is, Ron Paul’s people are giving Tea Party(s) some of the bad raps. I will ping you to an example right now.
A couple of things. First, they are not doing a good job of directly explaining to the general public what they're protesting about. All that "normal folks" see -- if they see anything at all -- is a bunch of people on TV, yelling and waving signs as a backdrop to whatever the reporter is saying. What that says, is that the MSM are filling in the vacuum with their superficial and slanted opinion.
So on that one I would suggest an ad campaign at a national level, focused on two or three (no more than four) Big Ideas, chief among which is the insane deficit. Obamacare is an obvious target, but the message on that one needs to be very, very carefully crafted -- one approach can certainly focus on the "hidden gems" in this plan that nobody understands.
The second area is as I noted before: it's not enough to be against. The movement (and Conservatism in general) needs to lay out a set of clearly-communicated ideas that can be transformed into solutions.
All of that takes coordination and resources that can really only be accomplished at a national level.
Let this thing run its course – let it work its way into the fabric of our culture. This is what we need more than “just-add-water” political quick fix. America is dying. It needs a lot more that a giant political band aid. It needs major cultural surgery.
excellent.....see you there.
I am the founder of the tea party movement.
No, that had nothing to do with the free market and everything to do the perversion of government intruding, subsidizing, and subverting the free market. America's economy was a bright example of the free market before the 20th century brought us Keynesian socialist stupidity which although soundly refuted is still followed by the Socialist dim wits.
I am a FairTax proponent, but I hardly hear anything about it anymore. There used to be meetings here, but they lost their place for the meetings and no longer have them in my community. I have worked booths, and I ride the bike path with my FairTax shirt on ever weekend, chatting up people about it.
I think this indicative that the TEA party movement has a lot of different ideas within the ranks.
The fact that Skoda only has 21 organizations involved is a good indication that most to whom they spoke had no intention of joining up. I doubt that it is going any place if it is going to try to organize the parties into a national movement, but it may serve a an information clearing house.
I actually thought that this would happen sooner but we’ll see how it goes.
Don’t worry. It’ll turn out fine.
The republicans seem to be filling us in on the details of that which concerns us...ex: the health-care bill etc. and Fox does a pretty good job of getting that info out there...as well as talk radio. The numbers who show up at rallies etc. would indicate the people on a whole are listening.
As for the MSM..they will always and ever put their own slant on anything that opposes their left/liberal ideas...that won't change with or without a tea party leadership. MSM is what we all know it to be. If you noticed the Tea Party is already doing ads and opposing candidates who are not conservatives, or who are liberal minded.
The solutions are pretty evident as well...abide by our constitution...and enforce it when necessary. The GOP needs to get back on track with our conservative values instead of playing the middle ground, the tea party is certainly influencing them. Additionally the states are stepping up to the plate as well and are aware they can demand states rights.
Does not all these state your concerns?
Well, actually....
I think the real difference is that the American colonists had been essentially self-governing for the decades that encompassed the English Civil War, and all of the stuff that came after. They had the advantage of being able to fall back on English law, the English constitution, and a working culture of governance and citizenship. And, yes, religion played a very large part in that.
Renewal of English interest in the Colonies was driven a lot by the wars with France, and the need for money to finance them -- and thus they needed to re-establish Government control over the colonies. Ultimately, the unrest in the colonies was created by a clash of governments, one trying to supplant the other.
The key feature, however, was in the fact that the American colonies had available to them a set of leaders who were able to properly define and direct the energy that drove the revolution. It wasn't an accident that those men happened to come out on top: they quite consciously gathered and led the disparate forces that made up the revolutionary movement.
The French, by contrast, had nothing to fall back on when they got rid of the existing government and the cultural basis for it. As a result, they were ruled by passions, and subject to the whims of the most aggressive among the revolutionaries.
The fear expressed by many on this thread seems to be that the Tea Party movement cannot deliver leaders of the quality of the Founders, but is instead inhabited by the sorts of piranhas who caused the Reign of Terror. If that's true, then the Tea Party movement has a real problem.
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