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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: SE Mom

John Baehner has asked for a roll call (outloud/verbal) vote. One name at a time announce their vote.


721 posted on 03/20/2010 12:03:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: PghBaldy; SE Mom
It sure sounds like trickery to me.

From Wikipedia:

U.S. Presidents have issued Executive Orders since 1789, usually to help officers and agencies of the Executive branch manage the operations within the Federal Government itself. Executive orders do have the full force of law since issuances are typically made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress, some of which specifically delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation), or are believed to have their authority for issuances based in a power inherently granted to the Executive by the Constitution. It is these cited or perceived justifications made by a President when authoring Executive Orders that have come under criticism for exceeding Executive authority and have been subject to legal proceedings even at various times throughout U.S. history concerning the legal validity or justification behind an order's issuance.

Isn't this what Obama used to get the EPA to go along with those idiotic Carbon regs? Also from Wikipedia.

It is quite common for US Presidents to issue executive orders that instruct federal agencies to promulgate administrative regulations in order to circumvent the legislative process in the US Congress altogether, though, as alluded to above, this can violate the US Constitution in a number of ways. US Presidents are quite aware that US congressional politics can defeat or otherwise prevent the passage of legislation presidents deem politically important. In this regard, US Presidents have issued executive orders calling upon federal agencies, such as the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the United States Department of Energy (DOE), to issue administrative regulations where the political process of adopting congressional legislation necessary to implement multilateral environmental regulatory treaty obligations a president wishes for the US to assume would prevent US ratification of/accession to that treaty.

722 posted on 03/20/2010 12:04:50 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: sloop

I thought they were unrelated too- but what’s he going to do- just write an executive order saying federal funds will not be used for abortions? They’ll lose the 40 votes- or at least a LOT of them.

I’m just baffled how they think this can work...


723 posted on 03/20/2010 12:04:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: hoosiermama
John Boehner has asked for a roll call (outloud/verbal) vote. One name at a time announce their vote.

Good. Now everyone will know who the losers are.

724 posted on 03/20/2010 12:05:18 PM PDT by madison10 (If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven)
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To: TJC

Yes that’s what it looks like so then they will vote on the senate bill...I think...scratching my head to keep up. But deem and pass is dead....stupak deal is dead. Reconcilisation? hummm don’t know.


725 posted on 03/20/2010 12:05:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: penelopesire

1pm and I am STILL in my pjs. I really have to go get dressed!


726 posted on 03/20/2010 12:06:07 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord

“The whole thing stinks and just goes to show how corrupt they really are”

A great bottom line point you have there.

They are breaking the rules right....voting on ammendments to a bill that hasn’t even been passed....lol. Jeff Flake was just trying to bring that point up a minute ago on the house floor over the veteran fix they just all voted on and the the dingbat standing in the chair basically told him to refer to the rules and make his own mind up. In other words...’We can do anything we want to up here...we are in charge..nanni..nanni booboo’.

Our constitutional form of government is being shreaded as we speak.


727 posted on 03/20/2010 12:07:06 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: madison10

They are so arrogant they will probably refuse to do a roll call vote!! This cabal does anything it wants regardless of such pesky things as rules and procedure. CO


728 posted on 03/20/2010 12:07:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: SE Mom

I have been thinking about this. In order to prohibit spending federal money on abortion they had to get an actual piece of litigation, the Hyde Amendment. And it gets attached to appropriations bills.

Yes, you can wipe out one EO with another EO, but I’m not sure you affect the actual legislation this way. It’s hard to think about it when you don’t know what it is supposed to say.


729 posted on 03/20/2010 12:07:40 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Marathoner

any minute he is to arrive


730 posted on 03/20/2010 12:07:41 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Dinah Lord
1pm and I am STILL in my pjs. I really have to go get dressed!

Nah, might as well be comfortable while they kill our country and freedom.

731 posted on 03/20/2010 12:07:45 PM PDT by madison10 (If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven)
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To: SE Mom

I suppose some of them would go for it just to be rid of the issue...but likely there’s enough true believers among them to knock the idea down.


732 posted on 03/20/2010 12:08:25 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SE Mom
just because der fuhrer issues an executive order, does not mean it is legal - i hope the pro life democratz remember that

also, he can issue an executive order at any time - he can also withdraw them at any time

he can also promise to issue one, and never do it - pro life democrats need to remember that and the history of der fuhrer’s lies

733 posted on 03/20/2010 12:09:04 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: penelopesire

So...am I to understand the House is actually going to PASS the Senate bill? Without changes?

I can’t believe that for a minute..


734 posted on 03/20/2010 12:09:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: PghBaldy

Obama to speak here supposedly http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=6


735 posted on 03/20/2010 12:09:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Nice poster except for the larouche notation.


736 posted on 03/20/2010 12:09:52 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: SE Mom

more pics

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737 posted on 03/20/2010 12:10:39 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: All

BREAKING- De Fazio SWITCHES to YES :(

PER FOX email


738 posted on 03/20/2010 12:11:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Canadian Outrage

By this time anyone who isn’t in a coma knows who to blame even if there is an “anonymous” vote that okays the Senate bill. And it ain’t the Republicans.


739 posted on 03/20/2010 12:11:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Bahbah

I have a question, and forgive me, it may have been asked before——when it comes time for the final vote, is it possible to “change your mind” and vote another way at the last moment?


740 posted on 03/20/2010 12:11:44 PM PDT by mupcat
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