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D.C. radio talker WTNT to air 3 hour exposé on the Obama eligibility issue - TODAY (12-3pm Est)
http://www.freedom570am.com/ ^

Posted on 02/05/2010 8:35:06 AM PST by whatisthetruth

Please join Phil Berg, Jeff Kuhner and others at 12pm Eastern to hear updates and events surrounding the Constitutional issues regarding Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack H. Obama serving as the President of the United States.

Kuhner pre-show trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7n_kSVRpBQ

(Excerpt) Read more at freedom570am.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: American Constitutionalist
THE GOD OF ISRAEL ?? DO YOUR WONDERS !!!

I don't know what He thinks about the Obamanation, but He's certainly sending a "message" about global warming to Sodom on the Potomac.


461 posted on 02/06/2010 5:21:58 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: bgill; divine_moment_of_facts
Pretty good rundown bgill, thanks, my brain is frazzled now, so basically then you're also saying, contrary to what some others are saying, that Obama could very well be a natural born citizen just based on the fact that his mother is a citizen who gave birth to him in the US, and that in fact 2 citizen parents are not necessary to get him over that 'natural birth' hump.

That would make sense as to why all the anti-birthers like O'Reilly, Beck, Matthews and others who have all claimed to have seen the birth certificate feel that is all that is needed to vindicate Obama.

462 posted on 02/06/2010 5:23:58 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: SnakeDoctor
Whether the issue should be dead isn’t really relevant ... the reality remains, the issue is dead.

If it's so dead, why did The One bring it up at the prayer breakfast?

463 posted on 02/06/2010 5:25:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: PilotDave
A birth certificate march in DC! I’ve been thinking that myself lately. I’m in!

Do you have cross country skis? Or snowshoes?

:)

464 posted on 02/06/2010 5:26:53 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: whatisthetruth
So if Obama was actually born in Hawaii, would he still NOT qualify as a ‘Natural Born Citizen’? This is all so confusing.

Not a tall! If you are born in the USA (like Springsteen), or on USA territory, and both of your parental units are American citizens, voilà, you are a "Natural Born citizen."

If Obama was born in Hawaii, which is certainly a possibility, he still would not be a "Natural Born American Citizen," because his father was a foreign national, a subject of the Crown.

465 posted on 02/06/2010 5:53:40 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“there are better avenues of attack than one that isn’t making any headway”

True. But you’re not talking about the Obama eligibility quesioni—it’s been steadily gaining ground all along.


466 posted on 02/06/2010 6:01:45 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Hmmm, so many issues, so little time!


467 posted on 02/06/2010 6:06:10 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: EDINVA

Here’s the program:

http://media.podcastingmanager.com/0/8/8/4/7/185470-174880/Media/kuhn%20ob%202_01_c.mp3

Courtesy of http://theconservativemonster.com/


468 posted on 02/06/2010 6:58:13 PM PST by May31st
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To: whatisthetruth

She would not have been old enough at the time to convey citizenship. Having been out of the country there was a certain amount of time she would have had to spend in the states before giving birth and she wasn’t here long enough.


469 posted on 02/06/2010 7:10:51 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: RogerQ
Isn’t it a fact that if both Obama’s mother and father and all 4 of his grandparents were not Native Born Citizens, then he can’t be a Native Born Citizen?

No, not even one's parents need be Natural Born Citizens. In PERKINS V. ELG, 307 U. S. 325 (1939), the Supreme Court agreed with the court below which declared Ms. Elg to be a Natural Born Citizen. Her parents were naturalized citizens, who later renounced that in favor of returning to Swedish citizenship. She was however born in the US, of parents who were then citizens, and so she was herself a Natural Born Citizen.

IOW, the only criteria are "born in the country" "of US Citizen parents", how the parents became citizens does not matter. And there is, according to Vattel's "Law of Nations", an exception to the "in the country" requirement for those "born in the Armies" or in "the house of a diplomat". That is because those military or diplomatic parents remain "subject to the jurisdiction" of the nation and are in it's service.

470 posted on 02/06/2010 8:33:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Obama is president until he is impeached

So your position is that someone not eligible to be President can *be* President?

Now that is an interesting position. Illogical, but interesting.

Scooter Libby went to prison...my guess is he would not agree with your characterization of it as merely a “fishing expedition”.

Libby's crime did not occur until after the "expedition" had begun. I think he would definitely agree with the characterization of it as a "fishing expedition".

471 posted on 02/06/2010 8:52:29 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: EDINVA
If he doesn’t believe the paternal conferring of British citizenship at Obama’s birth is not important to the issue, he is not a good spokesman.

It's only indirectly important. The fact that Great Britian might, or might not, have considered junior to be a subject of the queen, doesn't matter, but the fact that BHO Senior was a British Subject and *not* a US Citizen, is absolutely the heart of the matter of Natural Born Citizen.

472 posted on 02/06/2010 9:00:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: justiceseeker93
If he doesn’t believe the paternal conferring of British citizenship at Obama’s birth is not important to the issue, he is not a good spokesman.

I suspect you are correct. I think he'd take his chances against "Vattel". But *everyone* knows the difference between "native born" and "naturalized", or even "not a citizen".

Besides he said not to question his *citizenship", rather than his "natural born" status. Since he's a congenital dissembler, perhaps he doth protest too much and really is not even a citizen.

473 posted on 02/06/2010 9:16:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: whatisthetruth

Even if he had been born in the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House, he still would NOT be a NBC!!!


474 posted on 02/06/2010 9:25:48 PM PST by danamco
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To: Man50D
I find it puzzling why any documentation posted on the web is summarily dismissed simply because it is on the internet especially in this case, when the BC is supported by an affidavit submitted to a Federal court! I fail to understand how posting documents on the internet automatically invalidates them. Would you consider the same documentation any more valid if it was presented in any other manner?

Especially when the "CoLB" that the Obama campaign posted on KOS and which latter appeared on Factchek, with the seal now visible, which it was not in the original photos. has only been seen on the internet, and was no version of it was ever entered into evidence in any court. Nor has any official produced an affidavit attesting to it's authenticity or that of the information it contains.

475 posted on 02/06/2010 9:28:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Danae
see the Federalist Papers #68 by Hamilton

Reading that, it is clear that the current functioning of the Electoral college, as a mere rubber stamp of the popular election, but retaining the little bit of the original "small state/big state" compromise, is wholy outside what was intended. It's become a direct election, a popularity contest, if you will, in substance if not quite in form.

And that is how we got The One, a man who never ran a company, never ran a state, never even ran a city or county, and who was a federal legislator for only 2/3 of a term, and a not especially noteworthy or active one at that.

476 posted on 02/06/2010 9:39:53 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Nothing more than accusations until they have been proved/disproved in a court of law.

So, why won't a court even look at the accusations and the evidence for them.

477 posted on 02/06/2010 9:41:04 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: whatisthetruth
So if Obama was actually born in Hawaii, would he still NOT qualify as a ‘Natural Born Citizen’?

You got it. UNLESS his real birth certificate shows someone other than BHO Sr as his father, AND that person was a US citizen at the time.

478 posted on 02/06/2010 10:40:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: little jeremiah
The B.C. is not a red herring. If it is discovered that he was indeed born in Mobassa, Kenya, this will be like a nuke going off.

Well, yes, because everyone knows the difference between naturalized and native born. But even without being born outside the US, he's not Natural Born, unless he's lying about who his daddy was.

479 posted on 02/06/2010 10:42:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: whatisthetruth
whatisthetruth said: Don't know how trustworthy this Berg fella is, he being a Dem-RAT and all, but he sure talks a good birther game and seems to have all his cards in order.

I have followed this issue since Aug. 21, 2008 when Berg filed the first suit challenging BHO's eligibility. Berg is okay, but he's a bit of a pitchman and his case depends on BHO being born in Kenya.

Of course, it doesn't matter to me who brings Barry Soetoro to justice, as long as it happens. However, IMHO, the best legal mind, with the most sober, complete and air-tight logic in his pleadings is Mario Apuzzo and his lead plaintiff, Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. , Commander USNR (Retired).

Apuzzo's site for this case is: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
Kerchner's site is: http://protectourliberty.org

These patriots carry the torch of liberty at the forefront of a movement to uphold the Constitution. They deserve our support and our endorsement.

Proper Tea Party Attire:


480 posted on 02/07/2010 5:00:01 AM PST by TexasVoter (No Constituion - No Union!)
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