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[Senate Vote Update: Passed 60 Aye 39 No] Senate Poised to Pass Health Care Reform (Live 7AM)
FOX NEWS ^ | 24 December 2009

Posted on 12/24/2009 3:58:44 AM PST by SE Mom

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats are poised to pass a landmark health care bill that could define President Barack Obama's legacy and usher in near-universal medical coverage for the first time in U.S. history.

Ahead lie complex talks with the House to reach final legislation in the new year.

"We stand on the doorstep of history," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat. "We recognize that, but much more importantly, we stand so close to making so many individual lives better."

The vote Thursday on the bill extending health care coverage to some 31 million uninsured Americans brings Obama closer to achieving his top domestic priority. The White House and Congress have now come farther toward the goal of a comprehensive overhaul of the U.S. health care system than any of their predecessors.

But the final step may be the hardest: reconciling the Senate bill with a significantly different version already approved in November by the House of Representatives.

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To: paulycy

They already did, now what?


201 posted on 12/24/2009 8:28:30 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rbmillerjr

these weasles in the GOP will never reverse this attack on the American people and its Republic.
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The FIGHT must be equally enjoined on that front.


202 posted on 12/24/2009 8:28:42 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: SE Mom
This is terrible legislation that will drive the already massive budget deficits even higher. Costs of this bill will greatly exceed estimates and the tax increases in the bill will never generate the expected revenue because people will cut back on the activity that is taxed. Tax increases never generate as much revenue as democrats expect because people naturally work around the new taxes by cutting back on taxed activity and increasing economic activity that isn't taxed (such as spending more time shopping for lower prices on everything they buy because the savings are untaxed.) This kind of legislation that redistributes large amounts of income is a disincentive to productive work and investment and an incentive for business people to spend more time working around all the new laws and taxes and more time away from their business in recreation and value shopping.

The democrats have learned nothing from the last 100 years of economic history which conclusively proved that heavy income redistribution causes sluggish economic growth, high unemployment, and lower standards of living. This legislation was passed because of democrat ideology, emotion, and big democrat egos that always like to do the opposite of what conservatives want even when conservatives have exactly the right ideas for America.

This bill is just the beginning of huge tax increases on Americans to pay for the massive spending binge by this congress in 2009 and uncontrolled entitlement spending in the years ahead. All three forms of taxation will be increasing in the next few years: direct taxes, higher interest rates, and higher inflation. That has to happen to pay for all the spending in the pork stimulus bill, uncontrolled entitlement spending, massive unproductive federal bureaucracies, and now this massive health care spending bill. Eventually the young people under 40 are going to wake up when they get hit with the big tax bills and higher inflation, and they will finally realize that liberal baby-boomers in congress are very hazardous to the economic well-being of younger Americans. When the younger people wake up then you'll see a big political shift back towards fiscal conservatism over the next five years. A storm is building that will sweep many liberal democrats out of congress in the next two elections.

203 posted on 12/24/2009 8:29:08 AM PST by your local physicist (He was kicked out of a meeting at the law firm of Thief Cheat Liar Scoundrel & Crook.)
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To: exit82

They have engaged in tyranny.

Ten generations of Americans are watching to see if the freedom they bequeathed to us was worth the cost.

We dare not fail their sacrifice.

It starts today.
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Yes!


204 posted on 12/24/2009 8:29:58 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: your local physicist

The democrats have learned nothing from the last 100 years of economic history which conclusively proved that heavy income redistribution causes sluggish economic growth, high unemployment, and lower standards of living. This legislation was passed because of democrat ideology, emotion, and big democrat egos that always like to do the opposite of what conservatives want even when conservatives have exactly the right ideas for America.
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Bingo. We’ve got a huge clean up to do...like a SuperFund clean up of a spilled oil tanker that the RATS ran aground.


205 posted on 12/24/2009 8:31:47 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: SeattleBruce

When the younger people start seeing taxes and inflation shoot upward to pay for all this democrat ideology, that’s when the GOP will make a big comeback. The Republican party has a very good chance of winning control of the House in 2010 if we just keep pounding on economic issues and keep pushing for lower taxes, lower spending, and more economic freedom for Americans.


206 posted on 12/24/2009 8:35:37 AM PST by your local physicist (He was kicked out of a meeting at the law firm of Thief Cheat Liar Scoundrel & Crook.)
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To: Eye of Unk
Mc Connell was absolutely pissed!

He shouldn't have let this vote come to pass. He shouldn't have trusted the Dims.

207 posted on 12/24/2009 8:36:46 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: My Favorite Headache

.60 people just told 318 million people to eat shit on Christmas Eve...
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Think about that for a minute.... really think about it. Does anyone seriously think there is a shred of hope when 60 people can control 318 million and nothing happens. The sky is the limit, those 60 will do whatever they want. American’s are too timid, spoiled and dumbed down. They have been planning this for a generation. Last year they ruined my Christmas, this year, they destroyed my country. I hope they all rot in hell.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov


208 posted on 12/24/2009 8:36:56 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RaceBannon

they will only make you pay for
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Oh come on, they MAKE you pay for anything. People pay out of fear, afraid to stand up to them. If people weren’t cowards there would be a full blown tax revolt and it would bring these tyrants to their knees.


209 posted on 12/24/2009 8:40:17 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Because it’s really not about health care. It’s about taxes, redistribution, fat chunks of OUR money for them to steal. Also they don’t want it to go into effect until 2013-2014 because of the 2012 elections. That tells you how bad the bill is and how much people are going to flip out when and IF it does go into effect. If anyone pays a dime of taxes or any other money assessed by this bill, they deserve to be a boot licker for the rest of their lives. NOW is the time to take a stand.
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Withholding tax revolt, delay and non-payment of income taxes, conscientious objections to the death care based on abortion services rendered, and rationing not given to our elders (what utter disrespect and sick morality, eh?)

Combine this with the increasingly serious 10th Amendment movement in the states and SCOTUS/legal appeals...and the upcoming 11/2010 elections.

Keep the battle front and center in Americans minds as the socialist behemoth works its way through the RATS that infested our House.


210 posted on 12/24/2009 8:40:43 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: mojitojoe

The sky is the limit, those 60 will do whatever they want. American’s are too timid, spoiled and dumbed down. They have been planning this for a generation.
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“American’s are too timid, spoiled and dumbed down.”

I think that is changing - as Oklahoma, et al, is testament to. And I think we can change it MUCH more.


211 posted on 12/24/2009 8:42:53 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: RaceBannon

Obama supporters flew the Soviet Flag in DC when protesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYwSGRZGoqA

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Anyone save it? You Tube took it down, at the request of the WH I’m sure.


212 posted on 12/24/2009 8:43:29 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
They already did, now what?

They were warned. Now they will find out that we bite. At the ballot box and in real life.

Just the passage of this bill has raised the hackles of people I *never* thought would take a political stand (beyond voting) in their life.

Sarah is right, I think. The giant is going to waken and start rattling the cages that even the left is going to start pounding once they try to get one unified bill out of this abortion.

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Fighting New Year!

213 posted on 12/24/2009 8:45:51 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: mojitojoe

YouTube took down my video of 0bama saying his white half will be too confused to know who to vote for

I downloaded a ton of videos but mailed them to a Freeper who is keeping track


214 posted on 12/24/2009 8:46:05 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: sonic109

American’s don’t have the stomach for it. In the past year, if I realized anything, that is it. The majority don’t have clue what is going on. This has been planned for a generation. The Republic is lost.


215 posted on 12/24/2009 8:53:17 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Yep...that is because American’s fear the people that protect those 60 people around the clock.


216 posted on 12/24/2009 8:54:18 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: exit82

“No. Fly your flag. It is now the symbol of the Resistance.”

Uprising, by Muse:

“The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
The transmissions will resume
They’ll try to push drugs
Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
We will never see the truth around
(So come on!)

Another promise, another scene, another
A package not to keep us trapped in greed
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on!)

Chorus
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
Flick the switch and open your third eye, you’d see that
We should never be afraid to die
(So come on!)

Rise up and take the power back, it’s time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

Chorus
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!
(repeat)

Chorus
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!”


217 posted on 12/24/2009 8:54:34 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: New Yawk Minute

I will not let 60 A-holes take away my country
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Pssttt..... they already did. The land is here, the republic and Constitution are dead.


218 posted on 12/24/2009 8:58:25 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rbmillerjr
.these weasles in the GOP will never reverse this attack on the American people and its Republic.

100% correct. Given what the GOP has become in a few election cycles, we'll see GOP politicians fighting to "own" certain elements and expansions of the nationalized medical service. You can bet on that.

The promise of the US is over and with it, the flowers of The Enlightenment. Great Britain shrugged off the Magna Charta a few weeks ago and today the US has officially become a Marxist regime.

Liberty is taking a hiatus and we won't see its return in our lifetime; we are living in the Totalitarian Moment and we'll have to keep our heads down and do the groundwork for future generations.

It's now time for a Samizdat for the former USA and we necessarily go underground and enter the fight for future minds.

219 posted on 12/24/2009 9:01:18 AM PST by upstanding
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To: dinodino

“why the ____ are they waiting until 2014 to implement it?”

Because The One will be safe in his second term, and SCOTUS will be packed by then.

I mean, aside from the taxes and fees accruing.


220 posted on 12/24/2009 9:01:22 AM PST by DBrow
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