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Climate czar says e-mails don't change anything
Washington Times ^ | 11/25/2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/25/2009 10:57:42 AM PST by markomalley

Obama climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected the e-mails that appear to show some British climate scientists trumped up global warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.

"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, who President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.

The e-mails were hacked from the Climate Research Unit at the University of Wast Anglia and have come to light over the last week. They appear to show scientists saying they've smoothed over data that doesn't back up their claims of warming, and pondering how to freeze out scientists who disagree with them.

Release of the e-mails has fueled skeptics ahead of next month's major global warming meeting in Copenhagen, which is supposed to set the framework for a new global treaty to restrict greenhouse gas emissions.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Obama will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to greenhouse gas reductions.

But the data remains a point of debate, with skeptics pointing to several data sets that show the last few years have actually seen a cooling effect.

Sen. James Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, has called for an investigation into the e-mails, and says they confirm his long-held suspicion that climate claims are not supported by the actual data.

Ms. Browner, though, said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: browner; climategate; fakebutaccurate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; junkscience; planetgore
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To: hoe_cake
“”I’m sticking with the 2,500 scientists. “

Totally ignoring the 7500 scientists who disbelieved the global warming claim.


Yes and you can see the mindset of a political hack attorney. She's so stupid that she doesn't realize that science is not about consensus. If 99% of scientists believe the moon is made of green cheese, that doesn't mean it is. All throughout the history of science there have been examples of minority theories that were later proven to be correct. Many times the great majority of scientists have been proven wrong. Lord Rutherford stated that the atom could never be split. Well we know about that one.

Of course none of this means a thing to Browner. She's an ideologue who has drank the cool-aid. Facts don't matter. She's a despicable person for sure.
41 posted on 11/25/2009 11:13:05 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Tell it to Joe the Plumber...how many years of prison did the gubermint union stooge who illegaly snooped on him get?

...oh yeah,none.


42 posted on 11/25/2009 11:13:44 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: markomalley

"I don't give a shit that the Climate Change is based all on LIES.
We are still going ahead and destroying the economy with all the laws we are forcing on you
based on these LIES."
43 posted on 11/25/2009 11:14:51 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Night Hides Not
"We may be wrong, but we believe in what we're doing."

I hope the next administration ('R', hopefully conservative) puts this quote in their back pocket. Use it. The next day, after the press has blown up over it, issue a 'correction' and attribute the quote to Clueless Joe. I would enjoy that.

44 posted on 11/25/2009 11:14:51 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: markomalley
As Martin Malia wrote in "Soviet Tragedy," his book on the Russian Revolution:

"[It] takes a great ideal to produce a great crime."

Carol Browner is a True Believer in the "ideal" behind biggest crime ever foisted on humanity.

45 posted on 11/25/2009 11:14:54 AM PST by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: pissant

Was ONE word said about CLIMATEGATE HERE?

Gibbs press briefings

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/press-gaggle-press-secretary-robert-gibbs-deputy-national-security-advisor-internat

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/briefing-white-house-press-secretary-robert-gibbs-112309


46 posted on 11/25/2009 11:15:01 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: markomalley; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

“Let them eat Cake”, she said.


47 posted on 11/25/2009 11:15:20 AM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: chpmass

She received the DEM talking points. Note, all the Crap and Traders will be spinning this line.


48 posted on 11/25/2009 11:18:16 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: Night Hides Not

Re: Joe Biden’s remark: “We may be wrong, but we believe in what we’re doing.”

Yes, it’s a faith, a religion with these man-made global warming believers. There’s no longer any scientific justification to back up their beliefs, so it’s just a new kind of faith — a religion.


49 posted on 11/25/2009 11:18:32 AM PST by Snapping Turtle
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To: markomalley

If an environmentalist falls in the forest and no one hears about it or mentions it or acknowledges it, did the environmentalist really fall? This tactic may have worked pre-Rush and pre-FoxNews, but not now. Faking the data and destroying the evidence are hard to defend even by the best liars. All they can do is ignore the story, and by doing so admit the fraud.


50 posted on 11/25/2009 11:20:01 AM PST by excopconservative
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To: markomalley
out_in_the_cold
51 posted on 11/25/2009 11:20:14 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: hoe_cake
“”I’m sticking with the 2,500 scientists. “

Totally ignoring the 7500 scientists who disbelieved the global warming claim.


Just curious, where are we getting the 2,500 and 7,500 numbers from ? Any reliable source(s) for this ?
52 posted on 11/25/2009 11:20:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: markomalley

bookmark


53 posted on 11/25/2009 11:20:34 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: markomalley
http://robsrantings.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/carol_browner.jpg

She's a lunkhead and a plodder. A socialist functionary. A loyal apparatchik and ultimately a thug who is hired to put a kinder female face on thuggery and oppression. 

I don't see much IQ going on here. I don't see an originality, she's saying the same crap she said thirty years ago. That's why she got appointed

54 posted on 11/25/2009 11:20:41 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: markomalley

“We have been caught conspiring to propagate a complete and utter lie in order to drive policy with trillions of dollars at stake, but that doesn’t change anything...”


55 posted on 11/25/2009 11:21:58 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: markomalley

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/

In case anyone has forgotten. Ms. Browner’s membership in “Socialist International”, which has now been “scrubbed” so the masses won’t know.

from story:

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner’s name and biography had been removed from Socialist International’s Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group’s congress in Greece was still available.

Socialist International, an umbrella group for many of the world’s social democratic political parties such as Britain’s Labor Party, says it supports socialism and is harshly critical of U.S. policies.

The group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society, the organization’s action arm on climate change, says the developed world must reduce consumption and commit to binding and punitive limits on greenhouse gas emissions.


56 posted on 11/25/2009 11:22:23 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: machogirl

she was also “scrubbed” from Gore’s site.

from story, Washington Times:

Mrs. Browner ran the Environmental Protection Agency under President Clinton. Until she was tapped for the Obama administration, she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

Her name has been removed from the Gore organization’s Web site list of directors, and the Audubon Society issued a press release about her departure from that organization.


57 posted on 11/25/2009 11:24:03 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: markomalley
If they acknowledge it they are admitting they are culpable as well. They will deny this all the way to jail.
58 posted on 11/25/2009 11:24:40 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: markomalley

Sounds to me like she just asked for a FOIA on a list of these 2,500 scientists she is willing to throw on their swords; any takers?


59 posted on 11/25/2009 11:24:50 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the “2,500” number is the number that signed onto the now compromised IPCC report, although only 52 actually worked on the report. And some of the more notable scientists have since jumped ship. I also think the IPCC report was forged around the CRU data. I might have the numbers wrong, but I think that’s the gist of it.


60 posted on 11/25/2009 11:25:04 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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