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Update:13 Soldiers Killed 31 Wounded Fort Hood Shooting [Muslim terrorist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan]
ABC ^ | 05 NOV 09

Posted on 11/05/2009 12:18:55 PM PST by DCBryan1

Edited on 11/05/2009 2:37:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at a Texas military base by what officials believe was possibly carried out by an Army officer.

The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Thanks Kim.


2,581 posted on 11/09/2009 2:39:38 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

What is it with George Washington U?


2,582 posted on 11/09/2009 2:42:39 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: All; Oorang; Velveeta; backhoe

Card Image:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/hasancard.jpg

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/fort-hood-jihadists-business-card-soldier-of-allah-swt.html

“Fort Hood jihadist’s business card: “Soldier of Allah (SWT)””

(Added November 9, 2009)

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Card and Koran image:

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//091106/480/654eab87ff7143979b92649c0c8d15ac/

PHOTO CAPTION SNIPPET - Quote:
This photograph taken on Friday, Nov. 6, 2009 in Killeen, Texas, shows a copy of the Quran and a briefcase holding this business card that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan gave to his neighbor a day before going on a shooting spree at the Fort Hood Army Base. (AP Photo/Jack Plunkett)
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/HasanQuran.jpg

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/when-nidal-hasan-came-calling.html

“When Nidal Hasan came calling”
(Added November 6, 2009)


2,583 posted on 11/09/2009 2:46:47 PM PST by Cindy
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To: piasa

I don’t know.


2,584 posted on 11/09/2009 2:47:58 PM PST by Cindy
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Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz4QICE7oHc&feature=player_embedded

“Gen. Casey: Army will take a hard look at ourselves”

VIDEO DESCRIPTION - Quote:

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World1News
November 08, 2009

Nov. 8: Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey discusses the shooting rampage at Fort Hood with NBCs David Gregory on Meet the Press.

Category: News & Politics
Tags: Nov. 8: Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey discusses the shooting rampage at Fort Hood with NBCs David Gregory on Meet Press.

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Blog - Opinion:

http://newsrealblog.com/2009/11/09/fire-general-casey/

“Fire General Casey”
2009 NOVEMBER 9
tags: Fort Hood Massacre, General Casey, News, Politics
by David Horowitz

SNIPPET: “Not qualified to lead our troops.

You have to view this segment of the Meet the Press interview with Army chief of staff General George Casey to believe it — to believe that our army could be led by someone as incompetent in national security matters as this man showed he was, first by claiming that the army hadn’t “missed anything” in regard to the in-your-face warning signs exhibited by Major Hasan that he was a fanatical Muslim jihadist and an imminent threat to massacre our troops, by admitting that the army’s diversity policies had trumped its security policies, and worst of all by making this statement:”


2,585 posted on 11/09/2009 3:03:30 PM PST by Cindy
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kalamullah.com/img/beyond.gif
kalamullah.com/Anwar%20Al-Awlaki/Beyond%20Guantanamo.mp3
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stepping back in time...

revolution.ansar1.net/?p=1362

“Imam Anwar al-Awlaki: Beyond Guantanamo: Is this the End? September 1, 2009
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2,586 posted on 11/09/2009 3:24:21 PM PST by Cindy
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ADDING to post no. 2569:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

Home > The Blotter from Brian Ross

“Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan’s Contacts with al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used ‘Electronic Means’ to Connect with Terrorists”

By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009

SNIPPET: “U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan tried to make contact with people linked to al Qaeda.
According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan’s contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response.”


2,587 posted on 11/09/2009 4:27:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Thanks for continued updates, Cindy.

>>>“Fort Hood jihadist’s business card: “Soldier of Allah (SWT)””<<<<

Stepping back in time:

35 jihad training compounds on American soil

Here is a press release from the Christian Action

Network: “Never-Before-Revealed Terrorist Training Video Exposes 35 Compounds On American Soil”:

“Act like you are his friend. Then kill him.” – Sheik Muburak Gilani explaining how to kill American infidels
Washington, DC—The American public was never supposed to know. The 2006 Justice Department document that exposes 35 terrorist training compounds in the U.S. was marked “Dissemination Restricted to Law Enforcement.” All the copies of Sheik Muburak Gilani’s terrorist training video, “Soldiers of Allah,” had been confiscated and sealed—all of them, that is, except one—that Christian Action Network now reveals in the documentary Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.

It seems unfathomable—nearly three dozen terrorist training compounds in the U.S. and the FBI, Homeland Security, and State Department are no help at all? But the evidence is irrefutable: as Jamaat ul-Fuqra (known in the U.S. as Muslims of America) leader Sheik Muburak Gilani professes on the Soldiers of Allah video, “We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America.”

The Soldiers of Allah training video teaches American students how to operate AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers, and machine guns; how to kidnap Americans and then kill them; how to conduct sabotage and subversive operations; and how to use mortars and explosives.

With almost 50 terrorist attacks on American soil linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra—ranging from bombings to murder to plots to blowing up American landmarks—what will it take for the government to protect its citizens from self-professed enemies of Americans? They hide across 35 American cities as innocuous-sounding as Hancock, NY; Red House, VA; and Seattle, WA.

The allegations are serious, which is why Christian Action Network took more than two years to research Muslims of America—going inside the compounds with their video cameras and questions to confront violence and confirm the truth. Their mission? To make Americans aware of the threats and have Jamaat ul-Fuqra placed on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization Watch List, thereby shutting down the camps in the U.S. run by ul-Fuqra’s front group, Muslims of America.

The State Department issued a statement on January 31, 2002, regarding why the group was no longer recognized as a terrorist organization: “Jamaat ul-Fuqra has never been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization. It was included in several recent annual terrorism reports under ‘other terrorist groups,’ i.e., groups that had carried out acts of terrorism but that were not formally designated by the Secretary of State. However, because of the group’s inactivity during 2000, it was not included in the most recent terrorism report covering that calendar year.”

The effect of being removed from terrorist reports? In January 2002 Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and later beheaded while attempting to attend an interview with Jamaat ul-Fuqra leader Sheikh Muburak Gilani.

Was this an isolated incident? Hardly. In March 2003, Fuqra and al Qaeda member Iyman Faris pled guilty in federal court to a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, and the list goes on.

According to a 2006 Department of Justice report, “Today, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.”

In 2005, The Department of Homeland Security predicted that Muslims of America will continue to strike in the United States-yet they are still not listed on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization Watch List. “Other predicted possible sponsors of attacks include Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani-based group that has been linked to Muslims of America.”

Christian Action Network will show Homegrown Jihad at the Landmark Theater in Washington, DC, on February 11, 2009, at 7:30 pm. There is no charge to attend the viewing. Copies can also be obtained at www.christianaction.org.

If you’re in Washington on the 11th, please go to this, and send us a report!

video at link
http://www.jihadwatch.org/

23 posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 6:23:51 PM by Velveeta
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2,588 posted on 11/09/2009 4:38:49 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

You’re welcome Velveet and bumping your post no. 2588.


2,589 posted on 11/09/2009 5:12:57 PM PST by Cindy
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http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=65996

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2382648/posts

“Stars and Stripes stories about the Fort Hood shooting”
Stars and Stripes ^ | November 10, 2009
Posted on November 9, 2009 5:54:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar


2,590 posted on 11/09/2009 6:13:51 PM PST by Cindy
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ADDING to post no. 2583:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/soldiersofallah/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/soldierofallah/index


2,591 posted on 11/09/2009 8:08:35 PM PST by Cindy
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To: piasa; penelopesire; All

Thanks to piasa for the ping to these posts:

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2382275/posts?page=119#119

To: Palladin; All

We are going to find a nexus(I already am finding plenty) between anti-war activists,Hasan, democrat politicians and liberal/leftists in the DOD.

(snip from the Huffington Post))
“ Maj. Nidal Hasan, 39, the alleged gunman in the November 5th Fort Hood shootings, served as the co-chair of a panel which examined “Medical Issues for Psychiatrists in Disasters” at the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) annual conference held this past May in San Francisco.

Among the other experts on the panel was Col. Elspeth Ritchie, M.D., M.P.H., a Harvard-trained psychiatrist who is widely referred to as the “Army’s top psychiatrist,” in her role as the Medical Director at the Strategic Communication Directorate Office of the Army Surgeon General.Dr. Hasan’s role as co-chair of the panel would indicate that he was better known professionally, and more highly regarded in his field of disaster psychiatry, than has been previously reported. (end snip)

If you research ‘suicides in the military’ between 2006-2008, you will find that over the last few years, the anti-war media and leftist democrats harped on those reports for quite awhile and used them to drum up opposition to the war. Hasan helped to prepare those reports for Congress. If you will also recall, in a tape from Al Qaeda during that time, OBL made mention of our soldiers ‘committing suicides in mass’. The media and far left wing groups also love to quote Col. Elspeth Ritchie, M.D., M.P.H.,because in 2008 she told a reporter that our mentally ill soldiers with PTSD were being sent back to the battlefields because we didn’t have enough troops. The left wing media and the anti-war democrats seized on her words at the time and used them for political purposes. She was quoted on many, many anti-war sites as the new darling of the anti-war radicals. She is mentioned above as co-chairing that APA meeting with Hasan.

I also found it odd that the names on this report have been removed:(I suspect they have removed Hasan’s name)

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2008/05/29/19/Army-Suicide.source.prod_affiliate.91.pdf

More later.

119 posted on November 9, 2009 2:34:38 PM PST by penelopesire (”The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket”)
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“The source speaking to this author confirmed that report but went further, stating that this and information similar but not directly related to such communications became a “political issue” between government agencies and officials “at the policy making levels” of the administration.”

...and information similar but not directly related....

Both the agencies and policy making levels of the administration are aware of more Hasan’s.

120 posted on November 9, 2009 2:57:06 PM PST by Beach555
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Adding to the research on Hasan’s co-chair at the event mentioned in my previous post. She was scheduled to give a presentation on PTSD and suicides in the military to none other than the Center For American Progress in 2004:

Stressed..
http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2007/07/stressed.html

121 posted on November 9, 2009 2:58:47 PM PST by penelopesire (”The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket”)
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To: penelopesire
oops..she gave the talk in 2007..not 2004. This woman knows Hasan well and should be questioned.

122 posted on November 9, 2009 3:00:21 PM PST by penelopesire (”The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket”)


2,592 posted on 11/09/2009 9:09:56 PM PST by Cindy
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ADDING to post no. 2587:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573469,00.html

“Army Ignored Warning Signs From Fort Hood Shooter, Former Classmate Says”
Monday, November 09, 2009
By Jana Winter

SNIPPET: “”There were definitely clear indications that Hasan’s loyalties were not with America,” Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan’s classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., told FoxNews.com in an exclusive interview. He and Hasan were students in the school’s public health master’s degree program from 2007-2008.

“There were all sorts of ... comments made throughout the year that made me question his loyalty to the United States, but nothing was done,” said Finnell, who recalled one class during which Hasan gave a presentation justifying homicide bombings.”

SNIPPET: “Finnell said that once Hasan was identified as the suspect in Thursday’s massacre, he reached out to the Army to tell them about his experiences with Hasan.

This time, he said, “They listened.””


2,593 posted on 11/09/2009 9:56:34 PM PST by Cindy
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“US Media Beginning To Admit: Ft Hood Under Was A Terrorist Attack on U.S. Soil
Nov 9th, 2009 by admin”

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www.wafathunqareeb.com/blog/archives/204

“Case Of Major Nidal Hasan – Exemplary Implementation Of Shaikh Abu Musab Al Suri’s Theory…
Nov 7th, 2009 by admin”

SNIPPET: “Shaikh Abu Musab Al Suri (May Allah Free Him Soon) once wrote,

“I believe that a new generation of Jihadists is born today in the post 9/11 climate, where Iraq is occupied and the Palestinian uprising has reached a climax, thus leaving it at a crossroads. We are at a juncture where the believers have exhausted all their resources, and the nation stands by as a spectator in relation to their sacrifices because of the compelling silence of the ulama, the oppression of its rulers, and the inability to retaliate.”

Shaikh Abu Musab Al Suri proposed that the next stage of jihad will be characterized by terror operations created by individuals or small autonomous groups (what he terms `leaderless resistance’) which will wear down the enemy and prepare the ground for the far ambitious aim of waging war on `open fronts’ …. `without confrontation in the field and seizing control of the land, we cannot establish a state, which is the strategic goal of the resistance.’

Shaikh Abu Musab Al Suri wrote a book called The Global Islamic Resistance Call in which all details, necessity and implementation of above mentioned theory is given.

Now case of Maj. Hasan is an excellent example of “individual jihad” and this operation bore all the characteristics of a successful operation.”

SNIPPET: “So it is an ideal example of how Jihad operations should be conducted these days at individual level.”

SNIPPET: “Also Maj. Hasan was shouting “Allahu Akbar” while shooting.

May Allah swt destroy Kafirs by the hands of Mujahideen of Islam.

May Allah swt bless Maj. Hasan, forgive his sins, free him soon and give him high grades in Jannah.”


2,594 posted on 11/09/2009 11:08:20 PM PST by Cindy
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blog:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/ignoring_infiltration.html

November 10, 2009
“Ignoring Infiltration”
By J.R. Dunn


2,595 posted on 11/09/2009 11:17:14 PM PST by Cindy
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ADDING to post no. 2585:

Photo:
http://www1.ibdcd.com/image/IssuesWeb_110909_FULL.jpg

Photo caption:
“For Gen. Casey, loss of diversity would be an “even greater tragedy.” AP”

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=511805

“Suicide By PC”
Posted 07:06 PM ET

SNIPPET: “War On Terror: The No. 1 lesson of the Fort Hood massacre is that political correctness kills. But instead of learning this lesson, the Pentagon is repeating the mistake, putting more soldiers at risk.

Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey warns that making the connection between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s terrorist act and his Islamic faith could “cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”

Yet ignoring that connection, despite one red flag after another, is what allowed Hasan allegedly to carry out his own violent backlash against non-Muslim soldiers.

Just a few months ago, Hasan was promoted to major. He passed a security clearance despite evidence he openly engaged in anti-American rants, and even discussed cutting the throats of infidels during a PowerPoint presentation. Now there are reports that U.S. intelligence intercepted contacts between Hasan and al-Qaida.”


2,596 posted on 11/09/2009 11:23:31 PM PST by Cindy
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November 9, 2009

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel09/forthood110909.htm

Investigation Continues Into Fort Hood Shooting

The FBI continues to work closely with the Department of the Army in the joint, ongoing investigation into the tragic events that occurred last Thursday at Fort Hood. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with the victims and their families.

With respect to the investigation—the Army Criminal Investigative Division is leading a coordinated criminal investigation with the support of the FBI and other components of the Department of Justice and the Texas Rangers. The investigation is in its early stages and the information we can provide now is limited.

With respect to what the FBI is doing—personnel from the Counterterrorism Division, Laboratory Division, and the Critical Incident Response Group (CIRG) are on site in support of the tragedy. The personnel deployed by the Laboratory and CIRG are specialists in crime scene analysis, evidence collection, and shooting incident reconstruction. Our victim assistance teams are working closely with their counterpart Department of Defense specialists, and we will continue to provide whatever resources are necessary to support the investigation.

At this point, there is no information to indicate Major Malik Nidal Hasan had any co-conspirators or was part of a broader terrorist plot. The investigation to date has not identified a motive, and a number of possibilities remain under consideration. We are working with the military to obtain, review, and analyze all information relating to Major Hasan in order to allow for a better understanding of the facts and circumstances that led to the Fort Hood shooting. Understandably, there is a large volume of information in various forms and it will take us some time to complete this work.

There has been and continues to be a great deal of reported information about what was or might have been known to the government about Major Hasan prior to the shooting.

Major Hasan came to the attention of the FBI in December 2008 as part of an unrelated investigation being conducted by one of our Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs). JTTFs are FBI-led, multi-agency teams made up of FBI agents, other federal investigators—including those from the Department of Defense—and state and local law enforcement officers.

Investigators on the JTTF reviewed certain communications between Major Hasan and the subject of that investigation and assessed that the content of those communications was consistent with research being conducted by Major Hasan in his position as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Medical Center. Because the content of the communications was explainable by his research and nothing else derogatory was found, the JTTF concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning. Other communications of which the FBI was aware were similar to the ones reviewed by the JTTF.

Our top priority is to ensure that the person responsible for the Fort Hood shooting is held accountable. The ongoing investigation includes forensic examinations of Major Hasan’s computers and any Internet activity in hopes of gaining insight into his motivation. But the investigation to date indicates that the alleged gunman acted alone and was not part of a broader terrorist plot.

After meeting with the president, FBI Director Robert Mueller ordered a review of this matter to determine all of the facts and circumstances related to this tragedy and whether, with the benefit of hindsight, any policies or practices should change based on what we learn.

Again, this is a joint, ongoing criminal investigation that continues to move forward on many fronts. There is still much to learn. As a pending criminal case, the government remains limited in what information can be disclosed publicly about a United States citizen under investigation. As with any criminal investigation, all suspects are presumed innocent unless and until they are proven guilty of a crime in a court of law.


2,597 posted on 11/10/2009 12:26:53 AM PST by Cindy
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SNIPPET from post no. 2597:


"Major Hasan came to the attention of the FBI in December 2008 as part of an unrelated investigation being conducted by one of our Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs). JTTFs are FBI-led, multi-agency teams made up of FBI agents, other federal investigators—including those from the Department of Defense—and state and local law enforcement officers.

Investigators on the JTTF reviewed certain communications between Major Hasan and the subject of that investigation and assessed that the content of those communications was consistent with research being conducted by Major Hasan in his position as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Medical Center. Because the content of the communications was explainable by his research and nothing else derogatory was found, the JTTF concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning. Other communications of which the FBI was aware were similar to the ones reviewed by the JTTF.

Our top priority is to ensure that the person responsible for the Fort Hood shooting is held accountable. The ongoing investigation includes forensic examinations of Major Hasan’s computers and any Internet activity in hopes of gaining insight into his motivation. But the investigation to date indicates that the alleged gunman acted alone and was not part of a broader terrorist plot."

2,598 posted on 11/10/2009 12:31:03 AM PST by Cindy
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http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2009/11/forth_hood_shooter_has_ties_to.php

“Fort Hood shooter has ties to radical US imam”
By BILL ROGGIO
November 9, 2009 9:48 PM


2,599 posted on 11/10/2009 3:28:42 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy; JustPiper
I listened to a report on NPR early this morning, describing how none of the psychiatrists at WRH would allow to have their names publically given, but all of them explained there'd been problems for years with Dr.Hasan -- one small example was that for years, whenever he was on call, he would NOT answer the phone.

Scot Moran, head of the psychiatry services wouldn't talk to the reporter, but the psychiatrists claimed that the army would have been VERY hesitant to actively remove one of the view people in TROP that had risen to the position of shrink.

I am really furious that professionals do NOT police themselves, and instead let the bad apples inflict themselves upon the public.

It's gonna be a long long long time before I make another doctor's appointment for virtually anything - the stories coming out via the health bill and now this terrorist islamist doc are simply frightening.

2,600 posted on 11/10/2009 3:49:14 AM PST by hennie pennie
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