Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[MestaMachine]

True. But O Sr didn’t abuse Dunham. I’ve read just about every article on them, him, his wives, his tribe, his family, et al. I don’t think he ever even lived with Dunham.
The abuse started after he went back to Kenya. It was one of the things that surfaced more than a few times in other peoples’ recollections of him, including Kezia’s.
She said she stayed with him specifically because he never hit her, although she didn’t like his womanizing and drinking.
It was his third wife, Ruth, that he abused, but what that abuse consisted of, I don’t know. He was a full fledged drunken loser at that point.

[autumnraine]

“Obama Jr seems to have used “Barak”, after visiting Kenya when meeting Barak Sr on his discovery tour, nearly only with black audiences. “

Barack Jr. didn’t meet Barack Sr. in Kenya. Barack Sr. was already dead wasn’t he?

[hoosiermama]

FROM: http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php

...“All my life, I had carried a single image of my father … The brilliant scholar, the generous friend, the upstanding leader. That image had suddenly vanished,” Obama wrote. “Replaced by … what? A bitter drunk? An abusive husband? A defeated, lonely bureaucrat? ....”

[Jedidah]

Read Fred Nerks’ posts on this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts, and consider the idealogy that groomed both Obama and his parents and grandparents.

This thing goes back decades. The more I read, the scarier it gets, especially when you also look at the commie socialist thugs he’s put into high office.

Here’s my biggest fear: that next year’s election may be the last chance to take back the Republic.

They have control of the 2010 census. It will be managed by the White House. No way will it be done right. That means that the phantom population count will boost congressional seats in left-leaning geographical areas when Congress is reapportioned using the new numbers.

We have to stop this NOW.

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[BP2]

Barack Jr. didn’t meet Barack Sr. in Kenya. Barack Sr. was already dead wasn’t he?

From The Obama Timeline:

The Obama Timeline: References

            Obama may have made a 1980 trip to Kenya to visit his father. During that trip, he may also have visited Pakistan, and Indonesia (to visit his mother). It is likely, however, that the reports of a 1980 trip are mistaken, and Obama’s only such trip was in 1981. [194, 195, 196]

            On November 5, 1980, Ann Dunham is granted a divorce from Lolo Soetoro. The divorce decree states, “The parties have 1 child(ren) below age 18 and 1 child(ren) above 18.” This further suggests that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. (Dunham’s attorney in the divorce, Gilardy H. William, Jr., later becomes the Hawaii attorney for the Democrat National Committee.) The divorce decree lists the names as Stanley Ann Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro. [719, 746]

            During his college years, Obama maintains limited contact with his father, through correspondence, until his death in 1982. [271]

            Probably in late 1980, Obama decides to stop using the name Barry Soetoro and returns to the name Barack Obama, Jr. Whether that was done legally through the courts is not known. [194]

            Obama is disappointed in a grade he receives from political science Professor Roger Boesche, and complains he is being graded “on a different curve” because of his race. [20]

            In 1981, Obama visits his mother and half-sister in Indonesia, and then continues to Karachi, Pakistan and Hyderabad, Pakistan, with his friends Mohammed Hassan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, and finally to Kenya to visit his father’s family. (Most accounts suggest Obama visited Hyderabad, India, but he perhaps visited the city of the same name in Pakistan, a few hours drive from Karachi.) [23, 25, 26, 194, 195, 196, 245, 549]

[BP2]

Birth Certificates Continue to be Used as “Breeder Documents” and are Easy to Obtain

If one so desired to create an alias and drop back into "the grid", the FIRST step is to start with a fake birth certificate! For those wishing to do so, there were ways to do so in the 80s and before -- just like a teenager might acquire a Fake ID to buy booze. With computers and cheap color printers, it's even easier today.

Here's an excerpt that Obama may have read himself in an article from People Soup (1982 Issue, No 2) entitled, "So Ya Want To Run Away":

[GregNH]

After reading this post by jbjd http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/rumors-lies-and-unsubstantiated-facts/

I looked up a copy of that image. At the top of the page the heading reads “Marriage Applications Births-—Deaths”. It would seem to me if there was a marriage application it would have been in the paper....

[afraidfortherepublic]

Read Fred Nerks’ posts on this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts, and consider the idealogy that groomed both Obama and his parents and grandparents.

This thing goes back decades. The more I read, the scarier it gets, especially when you also look at the commie socialist thugs he’s put into high office.

Here’s my biggest fear: that next year’s election may be the last chance to take back the Republic.

They have control of the 2010 census. It will be managed by the White House. No way will it be done right. That means that the phantom population count will boost congressional seats in left-leaning geographical areas when Congress is reapportioned using the new numbers.

We have to stop this NOW.

I agree with all you've written. And we need to start right now for 2010. One of the first things we need to do is to stop denigrating Republicans like Sarah Palin. Poison darts to anyone claiming to be a Republican who calls her a nit wit! I'm with Sarahcuda!

[Jedidah]

Yes.

And what’s more, we may ALL need to hold our noses and work hard for people whom we might not otherwise vote for.

It is going to be critical, when redistricting comes about as a result of the new census numbers, that we have as many Republican governors and Republican state legislators as possible, because they are the ones who will oversee how Congressional districts are laid out.

I am not a Republican. I have never seen a ballot that I can’t split.

However, there is no viable third party, and we MUST get Obama’s Dems out of power.

That means that I may have to vote for a Republican governor that I abhor here in Texas next year. We have two nitwits in the race.

These next few elections will not be a time for protest votes or to stay at home. The 2010 census, if manipulated as 0 will try, could put the socialists in power indefinately.

[BP2]

It would seem to me if there was a marriage application it would have been in the paper....

Not necessarily, if it was an Islamic wedding in Hawaii.

Additionally, any wedding that took place in Kenya under a Kadhi Court (Islamic)
would not be archived in the Hawaiian marriage certificate database.

A 1961 Islamic wedding (in Hawaii or Kenya) could even be that missing page from the 1964 Obama Divorce papers.

See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):

Ironically, there is no proof of marriage (or location of marriage or date) present in the 1980 Soetoro Divorce papers,
and AFAIK has never been discovered by investigators. The 1966 or 1967 Soetoro marriage, most likely an
Islamic marriage, took place in Indonesia:

[mojitojoe]

Let’s order a Hawaiian one, see what it looks like :P

[mojitojoe]

Only because we are allowing the White House to take over the census. That was our first mistake. Where was the outrage then? It’s not too late, take it away from them.

[Jedidah]

How?

Next election is a year away, and the census will be over by then.

Unless the courts get involved, the census will be controlled by the Obama administration and its Democrat congress.

[mojitojoe]

The Republicans that we elected need to raise hell. Let the courts get involved. The little cowards should have done it when this first happened. This will end up being the single biggest mistake that we made. We mumbled a little, so did the Republicans in DC, then we all just moved onto other things. I was stunned that the opposition was so weak, especially compared to what is at stake(like the entire future of our country). Shameful!

[thouworm]

I made the following post several days ago & then never posted, thinking not relevent to board’s discussion, but since BP2 raises issue, here it is. My purpose was to construct a scenerio that made SENSE (”sense” being the operative word) and best fit the few facts that we know, in keeping with what we have gleaned from the psychological makeup of all the parties involved.

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Observations and a hypothetical to pick apart:

What I find curious is that Susan Blake says she saw Ann & baby 3rd week of Aug. 1961 in Washington and taught her to change diapers, (& this video is pulled out of existence) BUT

Mary Toutonghi said she baby sat for infant Obama “for two or three months, when he was seven months old”

Mary: “We managed the house and they had the rooms on the first floor to the right, immediately above the garage
. Each of the rooms on that floor comprised a one-bedroom apartment. I can’t remember when she moved in, but the baby was seven months old.”

“My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year,” Toutonghi recalled. “So, that would make the time around February and March 1962.”

Mary;s testimony is fairly specific. It seems unlikely that Ann & baby were actually living in WA until she moves into Mary’s house when baby was 7mos old. Would she arrive with newborn, settle into an apt, only to move into another apt a few months later? Would Ann had to have actually been in Washington in 3rd week of Aug for extension courses? doubtful.

Corsi makes the following 2 statements (contradictory?) in article referenced by Natural Born:

“Obama’s mother resurfaces in Seattle

Dunham’s transcript from the University of Washington documents she was enrolled for two extension courses beginning Aug. 19, 1961:

The University of Washington has documented to WND that the summer quarter 1961 ended Aug. 18.

Fall quarter classes on campus began Sept. 25, 1961, with the university communicating to WND that Dunham’s transcript reveals extension courses that appeared to involve a combination of independent study and night courses.”
.......

She can be enrolled Aug 19 without attending classes. Another Freeper aware of univ & time period under discussion said the place is deserted that time of year.

Neither Mary or Susan place Obama, Sr with Ann when they see her with newborn BHO or 7mos BHO..

Why did family move to Hawaii? Expensive move. I do not buy the “father Stanley had a good job prospect at a big furniture store” theory. Assuming that she did not get pregnant in Washington (necessitating the move to Hawaii), I keep thinking about something Fred Nerks said about CPUSA relocating people.

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If Susan and Mary are to be believed (as disinterested parties) we know -— for a fact-—that BHO was 7 mos old in Feb/Mar 1962.

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Set aside, for a moment, all of BHO’s verbal & written narrative (an important point because narrative is a critical theme for Obama (he said Dems lost to Repubs because Dems didn’t have a NARRATIVE); his narratives have dual purpose, one of which functions as sleight-of-hand)-— what testimony is there of Ann’s & Obama’s relationship? I can only remember Abercrombie (& we do not consider him a disinterested party).

Assume for a moment that 1) she did not want to move to Hawaii; I think there is testimony from friends that she was upset that her father would not let her go to U of Chicago; 2) after apologizing all her life that she was Stanley because her father wanted a boy, she now decides to introduce herself as Ann.

3) She is ready to cut loose, but she is still tethered. She starts U of Hawaii, meets Obama, gets pregnant quickly. 4) Assume, on her part at least, that their relationship was sexual infatuation and not love, and that prospects of a baby interrupt her educational plans.

5) Abortion is out of the question and whether she wants a marriage or not, so is marriage because Obama is legally married in Kenya. As BP2 has said several times, for them to marry in Hawaii constitutes bigamy.

Here’s the hypothesis: What if all the actions taken (and not taken) are to give the baby his (or, a) father’s name. Had she had the baby in Hawaii, could she do that? BUT if they go to Kenya, they can marry (him, tribally; her legally?) and get a birth certificate with Obama as the father.

I don’t think there is any evidence any of Obama’s family ever met Ann, so perhaps they never went to his village (family would not have even needed to know Obama was ever there). Kezia was in Nairobi (if she knew they were, she would be the only Kenyan having to keep a secret). Obama promises he will return after his education.

Ann, Obama, and baby leave Africa-— Ann & baby headed for Seattle, where she can register for school, and Obama for Hawaii to start new semester. If the plan was to get a Hawaii birth certificate, Ann then goes to Hawaii, takes care of business, and goes back Seattle to school to settle into Winter semester (when baby is 7mos old)

With Kenyan birth certificate, a Hawaii birth certificate can be obtained with Obama as father. The marriage date/place on divorce papers is fictitious & disguises facts that they married so close to due date in Kenya. No harm because it has been pointed out that at that time in Hawaii one could get a legal divorce without having been legally married. And that is another fact we know for sure -— Ann & Obama got a legal divorce.

Nothing of this is revelatory, but I have tried to think of a working scenario that best fits only the facts we know (without BHO’s narrative) and the motives that may have been operative in all the players involved.

[patriot08]

.

Canada Free Press
JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Today’s radio interview in Israel with Dr. Orly.
Discusses bc, Obama not elgible due to being British citizen, death threats, Obots tampering with her car:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1302

Dr. Orly Taitz storms Israel making a clear case for Obama (TV)
inelgibility- Obama is a British citizen.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

_____________________________

[afraidfortherepublic]

That's a good scenario, but I keep focusing back on the possibility that Frank Marshall Davis may be the father and that Obama may have been paid to take the rap -- as long as he could escape a life long obligation. It's those nude pictures of Ann wearing a glassy eyed stare. These aren't pretty pictures. They were taken around Christmas, just about the time she got pregnant. (Lots of people get the Christmas decorations out at the end of November.)

The pictures aren't pretty, not even sexy IMHO. She looks drunk out of her mind and like she's been caught unaware. She's not really "posing". There is a professional quality to them (one of FMD's skills) and they had to be developed and printed privately -- no film prcessor would return those to the customer. They'd call the police instead.

And then there is the book he wrote about the seduction and sex education of an underage girl named Anne. He congratulated himself and his wife for giving Anne a sound education from caring people and that once awakened she "begged" for it -- came by the house daily and "begged" for it.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Did I mention that the whole concept of FMD, his “blond, buxom wife”, and Stanley Ann engaged in any form of sex is absolutely nauseating to me? Twosome, threesome. hetero, homo. It’s all nauseating and very, very sad. And very UNLIKE the normal for 1960.

[Albertafriend]

Last fall the blogger named Zombie did some investigating of 0’s Columbia years and came to some rather frustrating conlusions because there was little evidence if any that he was living the life described in Dreams. (I hope this doesn’t come out with lots of strange letters and stuff because I’m pasting it out of a Word document.)

“The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama’s time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won’t, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan’s Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn - one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street.”
That’s seven different locations in total.

However, a quick perusal of the phone books from the period suggest otherwise — that Obama moved into that 94th Street apartment shortly after first arriving, and stayed there the rest of the time while in New York: This page from the 1982 Manhattan phonebook lists “B. Obama” as living at 339 East 94th St. (The 1982 directory is the first one Obama could have appeared in, since the 1981 directory was printed before Obama’s arrival.)

Yet this page, from the 1985 Manhattan phonebook, shows that he was still living at the same address — even having the same phone number. And he was in the following year’s directory as well, still at 339 East 94th St.

How could that be? As Obama’s campaign said in the quote above, and as Obama details in Dreams From My Father, he moved several times while in New York, sometimes sharing a room with others.

The only feasible explanation would be that Obama rented the 339 East 94th St. apartment (shown here), and then moved out while subleasing it to others, still maintaining the apartment and the phone in his name. And while acting as a sort of freelance landlord, collecting renting from his sublessors, he was still broke and kept having to move from place to place himself.

But seriously: How likely is that? It’s much more likely that Obama simply stayed in this one location the entire time, and later concocted a tale of being poor and itinerant as part of some narrative about his rise from poverty, or something along those lines.

Zombie also includes photos of some of the alleged residences and the phone directory pages.

http://www.zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/

This just adds more to the mound of 0’s lies and misrepresentations about his life.