Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
My 2 cents:
The second image is a photo"chop" job of the first. Pay close attention to the top of the "T" in "BIRTH" in the top right corner. Notice how the light reflection is the exact same as the 2nd photo"chop" image. Also notice to the left side of the photo"chop" image, bits and pieces of the "table cloth" can be seen that were left in, as well as the roughly edited edges that still retain some of the light reflection. It is my opinion that the 2nd image is just a clumsy touch-up of the first image.
Now for "is it real?" I honestly don't know. This is just my opinion about the two images that were provided.
The strip removed from the document could have been done to authenticate the age of the document.
Do ya think?? lol!
Ping me to anything you think significant.
His parent’s divorce.
good news....
Your missing birth certificate showed up....
You can stop spending all that cashon legal fees...
happy birthday.
Well, that's kind of a problem, looking ahead.
I've said for months that you can get any papers you want on the street in Mombasa, I'm quite sure I could produce a convincing Kenyan birth certificate for Eye of Unk containing any details you want, for the right price and given about six weeks.
Given the importance of this THIS paper, and given that the Director of Coast Provincial General Hospital went on record in January 2009 that he had searched the paper records for 1960-1961 and found no such document (linked at DU, YMMV), the ONLY way such a document will have any impact is for it to be authenticated by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London.
I don't imagine the present Government of Kenya would authenticate it, even if they were in a position to do so.
I’ll do my best ...
Correct. Notice the red pixels (left of Signature of Registrar) from the background that the cleaner-upper clumsily missed.
http://www.mombasahospital.com/history.html
“In 1962, with Mrs. Bibby’s permission, the Hospital was renamed The Katherine Bibby Hospital. By the time Kenyan became independent on 12th December 1963, any racial barriers that remained from the colonial past had been removed but in many quarters there existed the belief that the Katherine Bibby catered mainly for the Europeans. As part of the campaign to correct the misapprehension the name was changed back to The Mombasa Hospital.”
Lots of names linked to that period in time-if Lavender or Miller are historically correct,searches of these other peoples names may yield info.
Actually that seems to be more real to me. It was probally written by a Kenyan hospital worker who was poor at writing English being that it was a srecond language.
But where is that coming from? I do not see it in he copy of the image I have.
Oh, to take a sample?
Oh, he'll probably have his siren up around noon Monday. He doesn't usually do much on Sunday.
The second photopshop enhancement looks like it’s just for the seal and type to pop out. No mystery.
bookmark BC
These are not two different versions of the same document, they are in fact the same document, with the same staple holes in exactly the same position, the same stain, the same folds, and the very same tiny tear just above the “of” in “ninth day of August” and in three other similar locations. The photos were clearly taken at different time, but except for the edges, the document does not display any significant deterioration.
I do not understand the differences in the edge conditions or the gap in the upper right, which also shows the same strange serrations. The lower photo was clearly taken at a later time. Perhaps the edge serrations and the missing piece at the top represent samples of the paper taken for authentication.
Whatever was done to the edges did not result in the loss of any significant amount of material except at the right top.
Any document authenticators out there who can shed any light on this?
Didn't Obama's mom remarry? Could it be that Obama was adopted by the new father around the time of this document? (I don't know much about Obama's past or growing up, but I seem to remember hearing about his mom definitely remarrying at some point.
It didn't oxidize the stain pattern completely since the lower half of the stain doesn't appear there, but that's likely due to the folded section of paper not quite touching the entire stain; the mirrored oxidation is at its strongest along the seam, which is to be expected.
If this is a fake, the forger really knew his stuff to cover his arse.
make that a 58
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