Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Please elaborate.
Yes I believe he is hiding something about his origin. Whether it impacts on his status as a NBC, I can only speculate. More importantly, almost every aspect of his life before Chicago is also being hidden.
The man is a cypher and that cannot and should not be accepted.
I do firmly believe though that he lived as a gay man while in college and immediately afterwards in NYC.
If the BC was legit, his current tanking poll numbers would provide perfect motive for him to whip it out. But he hasn’t. And you can read Gibb’s’ face like a book.
I hope that it would be recognized as illegitimate. But this bunch would resort to retroactively changing the law to suit their agenda. And they have a majority to do whatever they want.
Yes, I do, and, having been unexpectedly drawn into assisting a lawyer friend of many years who became involved, as I mentioned to you when I had dinner with you in Washington, I have learned much more about it than even when, here on FR, I was initially educated by those at that time more familiar with what a COLB is than I was.
Having been involved in the only really similar law suit many years ago (involving the 1982 primary election of Ted Kennedy) and having done post graduate work post law school on law and communications I have become very interested in two things: 1) the issue is not going to go away, and 2) the battle is presently being fought in the arena of communications as it is now restructured (and was not in 1982) and have been working with a slowly growing group and formulating a plan to do something a bit more effective to remedy the situation. That is not to criticize Dr. Taitz and her group but just to say that I think something more can be done.
It is somewhat like the situation involving the Panama Canal although much compressed by comparison. When I began to work with Tom Moorer, Mark Hill and Gordon Sumner in the Clinton years and we focused on the Panama Canal giveaway I was startled to realize that although conservative groups had been soliciting and receiving donations for years about the Canal no one had filed suit. We did but we were too late. Here suits have been filed but the communications side of it, which I related to law all those years ago, is only beginning. The law suits are not as focused as they might be and the entire movement as not as focused and organized as I believe it will become.
I think that the cat is ripping its way out of the bag on the communications side and with the poll numbers of the Ci-cago gang dropping quite dramatically there will be a corresponding acceleration in developments leading to something of the nature of the Clinton impeachment although I am not certain what form exactly it will take.
The expansion of inquiries will not go away and the repression from the Ci-cago gang will become far more palpable and increase, at least in the attempts. I expect it the attempts that they will engage in to begin to backfire. I expect the litigation to enter a new and sharper phase, that there will be one or more new non-profits arising on the issue and that it is, as Rush Limbaugh astutely points out, the giving up by the MSM of their last shred of integrity, to their own harm, ultimately. There will be more revivals such as that of the Western Journalism Center which has already occurred.
I am supporting one of the birther lawyers now on some briefing he is doing and so I must sign off. Please keep up the good work. I enjoyed having dinner with you awhile back and I do not think that even you realize how significant FR is in what is happening in this country. If the Constitution and the Rule of Law are saved and restored to a significant extent, you and FR will have played a major part in that accomplishment.
BTW, among other things I am working on a book about these matters, related to the post grad paper of which I speak, and have completed quite a few chapter drafts. I am about to start looking for a publisher.
I am also looking to set up a facility where non-profits related to these matters can work and coordinate and leaders of this effort who are articulate can give talks along with others who will be in related fields such as the strategic importance of the Rule of Law in foreign policy and strategy and have taken the first step to secure a building for that purpose here in the East.
I am interested in finding out if there are other Freepers or those whom they know who have thoughts along these lines or are involved in similar or related efforts.
I loved the use John Hemenway made of this in one of his letters to Gibbs.
Yes, but I do not believe it is his birth place. He is hiding something; perhaps who his real father is.
Birthers?
Only a RINO, Troll, or liberal sympathizer would adopt the term of derision used by Obama and the MSM to try to squelch the voices of those who have legitimate questions about why Obama is hiding his history.
So which one are you?
My sister said she only has an Indonesian long form, nothing about the Embassy issuing one. She said it's not in English so you can't read her only long form. I'll have to check again as you seem more knowledgeable than I.
The old U.S. passport is the proof of U.S. citizenship she needed to obtain a new passport. The COLB was irrelevant.
I'd wondered if that was the reason but, silly me, since 9-11 I assumed security would have been a little tighter (since she was only about 18 months old when they cam back to the US and 32 years in between.) and they would have required additional documents. But, as I said earlier, I'm not very knowledgeable about all of it.
Obama has kept things sealed to the point that now even some in the media are beginning to making comments about it.
Lou Dobbs comes to mind. Even Rush joking about it now.
What I would like to know is why are all the following common documents being kept from public view?
School records. (I remember seeing GW’s report card, and even McCain's)
Student load records. (What was his name on those records?)
Selected Service records. (The one out is questionable. Seems the form disclosed was not the form used at date filed.)
College records like diplomas, yearbook picture, thesis.(Was his name different on those?)
Client law records.(At least Hillary did find hers.)
Writings as Editor of the Harvard Law Review.(Don't editors of publications write articles?)
Passport records for his trip to Indonesia in ‘81. (Guess he doesn't have that one, since word is he would not have been able to get a US passport to go to Indonesia in 81.)
Illinois Senate records. (Obama said he didn't keep any.)
Health records.(Obama did supply a letter from a doctor saying he was healthy.)
I'm just one of those who just keeps asking questions, and very simple questions at that! When someone in very high office keeps simple common documents from public view, it just makes me ask WHY?
HE IS LYING AND DECEIVING SUBSTANTIVELY ABOUT VERY SERIOUS ASPECTS OF HIS ORIGINS—ABSOLUTELY BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
PERSONALLY, I believe he was born in Kenya. His Grandmother’s Bro’s & Sister’s word on it is good enough for me. The other evidence just adds to it.
The Indonesian and other stuff is also telling.
He’s a huge deceiver. It’s his SOP.
Besides, one doesn’t spend over a million dollars to hide good things.
Beats hell out of me, but why the heck is he spending all that money and why won’t he produce a “long-form” birth certificate with hospital name, doctor’s name, father’s name, etc.?
Of course he’s hiding something.
As much as I want to know what it is — and I wholeheartedly endorse efforts to find out — my aim is not to remove him from office through the courts (as is the goal of some).
That would just cause chaos, civil unrest, and make him a martyr to many.
He’s doing too good a job of discrediting himself as it is. I strongly support continuing to get the goods on this guy, find out what he’s hiding, and keep giving him the rope to do himself in through his ineptitude.
Flip Congress in 2010 and remove this person from the White House in 2012, based on his lousy record and revelations of his hidden past.
IIRC, young Obama attended a school in Indonesia that only Indonesian citizens could attend, and that his school record there verifies that he indeed was an Indonesian citizen in the late 1960s. In addition, it is widely believed that he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport as a college student c. 1981.
LOL
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Surely you underestimate our capabilities. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Hussein Obama claims many things, among them that he was born in Hawaii, but if this were really the case then producing the long-form birth certificate would be a cinch. Nothing about this man is real, he is a complete, 100% media creation. His own lies, deceptions and bulging ego will soon enough entangle him and expose his true hateful agenda. This Frankenstein was put together by the NY Times, the LA Times, NewsWeek, Time Magazine, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, A.C.O.R.N., thug unions, George Soros and illegal donations from foreign nations. Now they must all work overtime to keep his image that of a mysterious, flowery figure filled with goodness and righteousness. But God will not be mocked, and it is God's role this buffoon is trying to play. It is Obama's monumental ego that will prove to be the solvent which disolves the layers of lies that presently drape this trojan horse. He will be exposed. The only important question on that day will be, "does anybody care"?
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