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JAMES TARANTO: It's certifiable: the last word on Obama's place of birth
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 30, 2009 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 07/30/2009 5:06:48 PM PDT by curiosity

Several readers have written over the past few days taking us to task for dismissing so-called birthers as lunatics without bothering to refute their claims. We reluctantly concede their point. The birthers have managed to sow confusion in the minds of some who are not lunatics, and for the latter group’s benefit it is worth clarifying matters.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; kenya; kenyan; muslim; notanamerican; obama; obotsfreakout; rinoromney; romney; romney4obama; romneybot4obama; taranto
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To: GoldStandard
GoldStandard sarcastically writes:

“Nope. I think [Taranto’s essay] was found at that bastion of leftism: the Wall Street Journal.”

Would this be the same WSJ that has literally called for “open border” immigration for the last 25 years?

Would this be same WSJ that has literally called for “a path to citizenship” for America's 12 million illegal aliens?

Would this be the same WSJ that has NOT reported - repeat, NOT reported - that 70% of America's 40 million foreign born citizens vote for the Democratic Party?

101 posted on 07/30/2009 6:02:06 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: pissant

Welcome to almost five months ago.


102 posted on 07/30/2009 6:02:13 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: pissant

Someone should have a teachable moment about this issue with Obama over a beer.

Make mine a Guinness.


103 posted on 07/30/2009 6:03:27 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: curiosity

Blah, blah, blah...

Why is Hussein’s long form birth certificate and Ultra Top State Secret?


104 posted on 07/30/2009 6:05:06 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: ml/nj

I got an Ummmm you are stupid type post as well.


105 posted on 07/30/2009 6:05:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: pissant
"This thing is picking up more steam"

This from the same guy who told me that Duncan Hunter's candidacy was picking up steam.

106 posted on 07/30/2009 6:05:37 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: curiosity

Blah, blah, blah...

Why is Hussein’s long form birth certificate an Ultra Top State Secret?

I am not a “birther,” but darn it, the bad guys are hiding something!


107 posted on 07/30/2009 6:05:55 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: curiosity

Stop fixating on the long form BC. Yes, we would wonder if it is faked. Why? Because this group has repeatedly demonstrated their willingness to destroy and fake documents. We are not dealing with forthright, honorable and trustworthy people here.

But the real smoke here is all of the history/records in total. And the serious effort to hide the history that is public knowledge with other Presidents and national politicians.

It’s not the BC in and of itself, it is the virtual blackout on all the other history of this guy and the lengths to which they are willing to go to hide [what is usually] mundane and boring biographical information.

Bill Clinton refused to release his medical history other than to have a doctor say he was healthy. We were all kooks for expecting him to release what every Republican candidate and President has been expected (by the left) to release.

They are the ones making a BFD out of records that no one else had had a problem making public. They are the ones foaming at the mouth. If BO had pulled out his original BC the same time as McCain did (after McCain’s was DEMANDED by the left) this would have died right then and there.

IMO, the man is entitled to no privacy. OK? He says he can tell me when and if I can see a doctor of his choosing. But I can’t see his school records? Bull.


108 posted on 07/30/2009 6:06:17 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: El Sordo

Well, since it is true, your post is an oxy-moron of sorts.

Believing the truth, and wanting to believe the truth have excellent conjunction.


109 posted on 07/30/2009 6:06:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: reagandemocrat

Ahh..., Roosevelt had his Fireside Chats... Obama has his Beer Summits... LOL...

Fireside Chats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireside_chats

Beer Summits
[no Internet listing yet; too new... :-) ...]


110 posted on 07/30/2009 6:07:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: GSWarrior

We doubt that he would assault the truth with irrational and unsupported insults such as you are engaging in. Do you support all the deliberate deception using the false representations about the COLB that have been engaged in?


111 posted on 07/30/2009 6:07:37 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: curiosity

When all presidents before him have done so without embarrassment, you think its OK for Obama to remain the only president in history who hasn’t shown any real identification.

According to you, the American people don’t need to see Obama’s transcripts, his travel records, or his long form birth certificate. Information George Bush and Bill Clinton had to provide to the press is OK for Obama to conceal.

Is that what you believe?


112 posted on 07/30/2009 6:08:41 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: El Sordo; All

“Pissing and whining about how a President, who wouldn’t take the time to spit on their shoes, isn’t catering to their desire to see more of his life’s history isn’t going to accomplish any of that. “

When it is a matter of national security, you are damn right the person who has the nuke codes’ history is important!

This just isn’t about curiosity, this is about a man who has NO PAPER TRAIL. We don’t know who he is. If a biographer wanted to write about him, he’d have to plagerize Obama’s books because there isn’t anything else out there!


113 posted on 07/30/2009 6:08:59 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: curiosity
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Which conveniently happens to be the law of the land.

114 posted on 07/30/2009 6:09:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: curiosity

How about simply authorizing the Hawaii authorities to let the rest of us see the actual information as it is documented and examine that documentation so we could decide for ourselves. Why does such a possibility bother you?


115 posted on 07/30/2009 6:09:30 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: curiosity

I’ve got it...

Obama has new and novel ways of dealing with issues, ya know... like

“Beer Summits”... LOL..

Well, perhaps Obama could do something like ...

Certificate Trade...
[you mail your birth certificate to Obama, and he’ll mail his to you...]


116 posted on 07/30/2009 6:10:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Right before he kicked everyone’s arse in the Texas Straw Poll, if I recall.


117 posted on 07/30/2009 6:10:36 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SoConPubbie
They latch onto this because they want to believe it is true.

Truthfully, I want the issue to be false. I want obama to present proof of his birth and identity. I WANT him to be a bona fide Constitutionally eligible citizen. I want him to put the birther conspiracy to rest.

I WANT obama to end this, and end it well, because the alternative is terrible.

I do not want to continue to suspect- or find out someday- that one man knowingly perpetrated a scam against the American people and the US Constitution because he saw himself as above our law and above us.

A man like that would do anything. We are not safe with him in the White House. The world is not safe. It may never be safe again.

And I do NOT want to find out that gullible, obsequious, partisan, greedy, arrogant, timid or evil people and institutions corrupted themselves and everything we hold dear to hide this conspiracy... to obscure this man's true identity and to support his lies.

I do not want to know the worst, but I need to know either way.

Both political parties. The US Supreme Court. The past 4 presidents who are still living. The intelligence agencies of the USA and every other nation of the free world. The media. All of them. They are supposed to represent every institution and ideal we hold in trust.

If we lose trust in these agencies to do the right thing and if they not only fail us but scorn and attack us for asking - then we are each on our own. Nothing holds us up except our own core beliefs.

So I WANT this to end well for obama. Because then it ends well for America. But I want it to end, soon. So we can move forward.
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118 posted on 07/30/2009 6:10:57 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: GoldStandard

Apparently it takes 6 months before you learn how to think.


119 posted on 07/30/2009 6:11:42 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Star Traveler
Sorry, not falling for the 'ol banana in the tail pipe routine.

Everyone around here says your a troll too, I guess I should believe them?

120 posted on 07/30/2009 6:11:48 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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