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AP sources: Senators Near Bipartisan Health Deal
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 28 July 2009 | David Espo & Erica Werner

Posted on 07/28/2009 1:23:49 AM PDT by edpc

WASHINGTON – A bipartisan group of senators is closing in on a health care compromise that omits key Democratic priorities but seeks to hold down costs, as lawmakers on both sides of the Capitol labor to deliver sweeping health legislation to President Barack Obama.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bhohealthcare; business; communism; congress; corruption; democratcongress; democratcorruption; democrats; economy; elections; government; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; politics; socialism
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To: edpc
If true, this would be a huge sell-out by "Republicans". So...all those e-mails telling me how bad Obama's health care objectives are were all just a scam to try and get money, huh?

E-mails from Michael Steele and others warning me of Obama and Pelosi's plan was also a scam too, huh? If "Republicans" go along and give cover to Democrats on this I will be officially through with this Party.

61 posted on 07/28/2009 5:47:59 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: edpc
And everyone knows that's exactly how it will go. We have a long, long history of this. The great society is a case study on how you give liberals and inch and they spend the next generations tearing that inch into mile after mile!
62 posted on 07/28/2009 5:50:59 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Man50D

Contact information for Senate here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2280335/posts

Also list of who’s leaning which way on Cap and Tax...etc Might as well use the call for a two-fer.


63 posted on 07/28/2009 6:14:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: BubbaJunebug

I just called and told cornyn’s office he better not even breath on that bill I told my tea party group to that they maybe need to call in and make sure he’s against it. And if he is he needs to be out in front saying he is.

She said he’s not but i don’t believe any one of them for one second. They will sell us in seconds if it means more money for them


64 posted on 07/28/2009 6:20:19 AM PDT by genxer
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That will not do any good. She’s a liberal and as such won’t do what is right.


65 posted on 07/28/2009 6:21:12 AM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: edpc

The late George Carlin said it best:

“The word “Bipartisan” means that some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.”


66 posted on 07/28/2009 6:22:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
compromise that omits key Democratic priorities but seeks to hold down costs

67 posted on 07/28/2009 6:24:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: calex59

18 States allow for recall elections. It has never been implemented, but now is the time for a few brave patriots to standup and not wait until the 2010 elections.

We must create the attention to be steered back to the people and not 0bama’s attention.


68 posted on 07/28/2009 6:43:14 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

18 States allow for recall elections.

which ones are they


69 posted on 07/28/2009 6:45:36 AM PDT by genxer
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To: genxer

The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin. http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

Even if the Recall is not successful, it gives people a valuable lesson tool for the free citizens in these states...and the rest of the country.

IF your state is not listed, it is time to start campaigning to get the ability to recall a Senator on your state ballot. States seeking to assert their sovereignty should strongly consider a Senatorial Recall initiative to be added.


70 posted on 07/28/2009 6:51:14 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: BunnySlippers

We’ve seen this tactic before. Remember Reid marching out to a Capitol Hill press conference declaring the Patriot Act dead? Not.

Pelosi is attempting to create some momentum for a plan most Congress People don’t want.

But, if she has managed to pay off a sufficient number of RINOs to offset her Blue Dog Democrat defectors, then it is obvious what needs to be done. The RINOs must go.

Personally, I don’t think much has changed, since it was originally announced by Reid last week, that a health care vote would be put off to September. In the end, the Congress Criters must get themselves reelected. The only question is whether or not Pelosi can offer a large enough pay off to offset that reality.


71 posted on 07/28/2009 6:53:52 AM PDT by dools007
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To: genxer

Well to be the contrarian here, the Republicans have negotiated out the public option, requirement for employers to carry insurance and or any penalty, the private insurance sunset provisions and most of the substantive ways of funding this mess. They have created a bill that the liberals will not go for. Still sucks and wish none of this abortion passes but they may have just negotiated a way out of this mess as it will not pass the Senate anyways.


72 posted on 07/28/2009 6:54:39 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: edpc

“The president is participating in an AARP town-hall meeting on health care Tuesday.”

The elderly who love AARP will swallow this hook, line and sinker, and be reeled in all the way to Emmanuel’s deathcamps.


73 posted on 07/28/2009 6:55:01 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: edpc

It says that it doesn’t have a government option.

It will not pass the Democrats. They want a government program.


74 posted on 07/28/2009 7:04:01 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: pburgh01
“[T]hey may have just negotiated a way out of this mess as it will not pass the Senate anyways.”

You are exactly right. Any compromise of the sort Senator Baucus has in mind will draw withering fire from an improbable coalition of conservatives and loony leftists. It might just get through the Senate (though I wouldn't take that bet.) But it would be a non-starter in the House. Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman and Co. just won't stand for it. Their mob would crucify them if they did.

There aren't enough moderates in either house of Congress to pass a compromise health care “reform” bill. Conservatives want to decrease government involvement in health care. The left wants to increase it. Both sides will join hands to fight anything that merely tinkers with the status quo. No matter how they maneuver, moderates will be surrounded, outnumbered and in a hopeless tactical situation.

If this were a chess game it would be time for the Dems to quit. Every move leads to checkmate.

75 posted on 07/28/2009 7:10:17 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: All

Probably true. It should be clear to anyone by now, especially Conservatives, that the Republican party is dead. It merely does ‘trick’s like an attention starved dog to get an old bone or two (votes) thrown its way and it thinks those bones are coming from the left.

There is only one party - the “Government” Party. We must start the process of creating a real alternative. It will take a few years to get it up and running but it is the only option. Right now we have something akin to the Chinese Communist Party developing although it appears as two headed it is actually just one, and once it does we are through.


76 posted on 07/28/2009 7:13:34 AM PDT by XLSweetTea (Obama Logo = Cultist Imagery of the "Saviors" Arrival)
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To: edpc

Republican’s Mindset “Gee, but the poor democrats will have no cover if no republicans vote along with them. We can’t be cruel enough to let that happen.”


77 posted on 07/28/2009 7:15:19 AM PDT by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
House version still has to pass and Stempy says there ain't no way.

If you believe that, you must also believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy.

78 posted on 07/28/2009 7:19:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When the going gets tough, the tough go out for ice cream.)
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To: imskylark
What interests me more is the fact there are secret "bipartisan" (read Liberal/RINO) meetings coming up with gems like this:

The Finance senators were considering a tax of as much as 35 percent on very high-cost insurance policies, part of an attempt to rein in rapid escalation of costs.

How a 35% tax lowers the cost of anything is beyond me. It costs someone, somewhere down the line. Likely, it taxes providers who, in turn, charge higher premiums or lower care. In that case, it costs double. My point is:

People need to know what their representatives are doing so they can be held accountable. Given the committee, it's not hard to deduce who these people likely are.

79 posted on 07/28/2009 7:23:19 AM PDT by edpc (01010111 01010100 01000110 00111111)
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To: fluffdaddy
But it would be a non-starter in the House. Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman and Co. just won't stand for it. Their mob would crucify them if they did.

So let's say it does somehow pass the Senate with most of Obama’s socialism stripped out, like you said the House will try and pass something palatable to the blue dogs and some of the RINOS. It will get murdered in conference committee. I can't imagine that food fight. Pelosi trying to add back in all the crap. The weeks and then months going by, we are into football season and the holidays and recess. This ugly b*tch dies in committee or comes out watered down, with some glorified SCHIP program, Medicare cuts, a national mandate to all private insurers to not exclude preexisting conditions, and some national buying co-op. Gone will be the public option, the towering new bureaucracy, the mandates and central control board. Gone will be Obama’s centerpiece, his WATERLOO! He'll sign in it with his nose held and the far right and left will be livid. Obama will just want it over, his approval in the low 40's and other legislation he wants losing steam.

80 posted on 07/28/2009 7:36:22 AM PDT by pburgh01
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