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Human-Chimp Similarities: Common Ancestry or Flawed Research?
ACTS & FACTS ^ | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/13/2009 9:55:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Human-Chimp Similarities: Common Ancestry or Flawed Research?

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.*

In 2003, the human genome was heralded as a near-complete DNA sequence, except for the repetitive regions that could not be resolved due to the limitations of the prevailing DNA sequencing technologies.[1] The chimpanzee genome was subsequently finished in 2005 with the hope that its completion would provide clear-cut DNA similarity evidence for an ape-human common ancestry.[2] This similarity is frequently cited as proof of man's evolutionary origins, but a more objective explanation tells a different story, one that is more complex than evolutionary scientists seem willing to admit...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; chimp; creation; cretinism; embarrassing; evolution; forrestisstoopid; gggisacultist; gggisstoopid; ggglies; intelligentdesign; monkeyseemonkeypost; notanewstopic; pseudoscience; ragingyechardon; richardcranium; science; slopingforeheads; stupidisasstupiddoes
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To: ZULU; metmom

???????????????? Faith deals with morality, religion and salvation. It has nothing to do with science. Science deals with facts, theories and experiments. It has nothing to do with faith, morality and salvation. You perspective is seriously defective.

“Seriously, liberals are all over the map. I think they simply gave up on getting out the myriad memos and are so utterly confused they just don’t even try to keep up anymore.”

I’m not a liberal.

“Such as “origins is somehow sterlie from or unrelated to evolution”, for instance.

Evoution explains the “how,” not the “why.” The “why” should be left up to theologians and philosphers, where it belongs

The total inability of certain fundamentalists to distinguish between religion and science, faith and facts, amazes me.


I’m not sure what the ????????? are supposed to mean....is it that you’re that utterly helplessly unaware of science, or just don’t believe people when they try to penetrate your indoctrination?

WE KNOW what faith deals with, but the point you’re so blatantly missing is science is making it it’s business, so to parrot “science has nothing to do with it” is ridiculously absurd!

Tell you what...just go on and do your own research on multiverse theory, string theory and come back with observable, falsifiable, repeatable rules you liberals demand of others but never of evo-cultism and so on...and when you discover no such thing exists, present us with the myriad liberal lawsuits to silence these scientists.

Then do a google on “scientific study of prayer”, “scientific study of faith” and the like.

And most assuredly and profoundly, YES you’re a liberal when it comes to science.

And your last comment is merely your own projections. Creationists not only understand science just fine, it appears we’re also aware and conscious of it, not something I can exactly say for you!

What amazes me is you’ve never heard of string theory, multiverse theory or scientific studies of faith and prayer!

But I suppose this is what’s to be expected when the nation’s ‘yoot’ is programmed and indoctrinated instead of actually receiving an education.


201 posted on 07/14/2009 9:01:27 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: xcamel

Sad that you liberals are so confused you don’t have any idea where you’re at.


202 posted on 07/14/2009 9:07:02 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: xcamel

So because everyone isn’t in agreement with your godless liberal scientific ideology that makes them a luddite?

Do tell!

That free speech thingy is such a nuisance huh?


203 posted on 07/14/2009 9:12:04 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Can’t even get the definition of *Luddite* right.

Another example of evo made definitions.


204 posted on 07/14/2009 9:15:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DevNet; tpanther
What have I said that was liberal?

Read your own posting history.

205 posted on 07/14/2009 9:16:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel; GodGunsGuts

Hey sunshine, if anyone can’t stand the heat, it’s the whiners that whine about GGG not be able to post anywhere but where you liberals see fit.

Which brings me to...why don’t you liberals with all your inifinite myriad God hang-ups simply move to Cuba or some such other godless society where you’d not only be infinitely more comfortable, but where us normal people would be more comnfortable too!

A win-win for everyone! ;)


206 posted on 07/14/2009 9:20:25 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: dmz; GodGunsGuts

Nice backhanded compliment to yourself GGG.

We ‘evolutionists’ are unworthy. We could not withstand the pressure.

Only you have ever been strong enough to withstand the forces of evolutionism while attending a Temple of Darwin Indoctrination Center.


What a terrible misconception! Listen to Rush Limbaugh someday. MANY MANY people have overcome liberal indoctrination centers, not just GGG! ;)


207 posted on 07/14/2009 9:23:08 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ZULU; GodGunsGuts; metmom; Fichori; MrB; valkyry1; CottShop; editor-surveyor

Common Ancestry or Flawed Research?, ZULU wrote:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Even a creationist should be able to understand that.


Here’s a clue for you ZULU, any source that has “evolution fact” in the link....simply won’t be worth a normal person’s time.

I would say even a liberal should be able to understand this but...I’d be lying. ;)


208 posted on 07/14/2009 9:25:59 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: metmom; DevNet

DN: What have I said that was liberal?

mm: Read your own posting history.


........from day one.

Not that any of this will help.


209 posted on 07/14/2009 9:28:11 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

You don’t have a single example. As is your style you make a comment then refuse to support it then when called on it you throw insults and generally act like a 13 year old.

How does that help your cause? Do you really believe that your actions will bring any one to Christ?


210 posted on 07/14/2009 9:42:05 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: metmom

When talking about someone you are to include them in the To: field. Remember when you told me that?

Guess you have a different set of rules for yourself than those that you hold other to.

Have you thought about applying for a czar position in DC?


211 posted on 07/14/2009 9:44:47 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’ve never understood how 96 or 98% similarity demonstrates that humans evolved from Chimps or a common ancestor in the relative recent past.

If evolution has been going on for 600 my, and the Chimp/human divergence occured 3 mya, shouldn’t we expect the difference to be something like 597/600 which is 99.5%?

And if we allow for the fact that generation-to-generation inheritance (and thus rate of evolution) in higher-order mammals is absolutely glacial relative to older life forms that came before, shouldn’t the difference be greatly reduced even further? All things being equal, I would expect similarity of more than 99.9%


212 posted on 07/14/2009 9:57:43 PM PDT by cookcounty (http://www.stumpedagain.wordpress.com)
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To: DevNet; metmom

You don’t have a single example. As is your style you make a comment then refuse to support it then when called on it you throw insults and generally act like a 13 year old.

How does that help your cause? Do you really believe that your actions will bring any one to Christ?


As I pointed out, you failed to read your own posting history, and see that’s a you thingy DevNet. Until you begin to lose some of your self-absorption, you’ll be stuck on your you thingy DevNet.

If I was the lone ranger here...you’d have a (weak) tenuous leg to stand on, but as it plainly is, with so many people having come forward and understand you are what you are...

well you’re indeed left simply with your you thingy.

It’s Free Republic, not DUmmy-world DevNet.

Is your idea of people bringing people closer to Christ rolling over and playing dead and allowing liberals to undercut and undermine Christ and His message in virtually every area of our culture DevNet?

I’d be willing to bet you have access to health care, perhaps even a cult deprogrammer in your area? Do you live near a great big metro area where most of your ilk congests themselves, or do undermine and undercut full tilt and live in flyover country?


213 posted on 07/14/2009 10:03:27 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther; Ira_Louvin; Texas Songwriter
It seems the liberal indoctrination centers can't even get their subjects on the same page.

It’s very difficult for the Scientific Community to get their “subjects on the same page” when they attempt to speak simultaneously from both sides of their collective mouth. And that’s what they do when they pretend there’s no connection between the Theory of Evolution and theories involving speculation on the origin of life generally and of the origin of Man specifically. According to the scientific methodology bequeathed to us by Western Civilization, there should be no connection. But when the Science Community is unwilling to accept any restraints on the religious or philosophical conclusions they draw, while fleeing to the sanctuary of Sacred Science to elicit immunity from criticism or dispute, then the connection becomes patently obvious. In its hubris The Science Community matches the worst of the religious fanatics to be found in every religion. So much so, in fact, that I’ve come to regard those members of the Science Community who haunt the halls of this forum looking for a fight, as Darwinian Imams.

214 posted on 07/14/2009 10:07:22 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: tpanther
So pointing out the obvious liberals shutting down debate is now shutting down debate?

No. But using Alinski's tactics puts you in great company. I am sure you are familiar with this link but it may be useful for others to see your playbook.

215 posted on 07/14/2009 10:10:02 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm


216 posted on 07/14/2009 10:10:25 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: cookcounty
I’ve never understood ....

We already knew that. No need to advertize.

217 posted on 07/14/2009 10:14:13 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: DevNet; metmom
Since you and yours like to try to shut down debate does that make you liberal too?

Again, people pointing out the behavior of those that shut down debate, aren't shutting down debate. Repeatedly ignoring this salient fact makes you the 13 year old.

For that matter, anymore than pointing out people like you, who don't bother debating, let alone know what the word "debate" means.

Anymore than our troops were nazis for disarming Hitler (or various other little Hitlers), anymore so than people sticking up for the unborn are the bad guys; and all the other liberal lunacy we see assaulting our culture.

Dude, you're in a humongous pool of liberals that are elbowing each other in the throat for the title of sir-project-alot.

So, good luck with that!

218 posted on 07/14/2009 10:17:43 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ColdWater

Uhhhh, were they asserting it could be done without intelligence and/or design?

Did you have any indication it could be done or that they were asserting it could be?

Creating life in a test tube can’t be done unitelligently or sans design.

Per usual, you just talk to hear yourself talk.

But I understand why the discussion must steer off course for your side. I really do.


219 posted on 07/14/2009 10:26:27 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ColdWater; metmom; GodGunsGuts
So pointing out the obvious liberals shutting down debate is now shutting down debate?

No.

OK...so why all the pretension, whining and liberal projection from your side whining about GGG posting where he sees fit and the majority normal people without the myriad God-hang-ups see fit?

But using Alinski's tactics puts you in great company.

Wow...We already knew you were in the sir-project-alot contest CW...

you people are really slow!

I am sure you are familiar with this link but it may be useful for others to see your playbook.

Link?

You should go lay down too or throw yourself over your head.

Again.

220 posted on 07/14/2009 10:34:54 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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