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Human-Chimp Similarities: Common Ancestry or Flawed Research?
ACTS & FACTS ^ | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/13/2009 9:55:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Human-Chimp Similarities: Common Ancestry or Flawed Research?

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.*

In 2003, the human genome was heralded as a near-complete DNA sequence, except for the repetitive regions that could not be resolved due to the limitations of the prevailing DNA sequencing technologies.[1] The chimpanzee genome was subsequently finished in 2005 with the hope that its completion would provide clear-cut DNA similarity evidence for an ape-human common ancestry.[2] This similarity is frequently cited as proof of man's evolutionary origins, but a more objective explanation tells a different story, one that is more complex than evolutionary scientists seem willing to admit...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 07/13/2009 9:55:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...
After reading the above, give the following a read... Remember how the evos told us that human-chimp ancestry was a slam dunk? Think again…LOL! Humans More Related To Orangutans Than Chimps, Study Suggests http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090618084304.htm
2 posted on 07/13/2009 9:57:16 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: All
Ooops, here it is again:

After reading the above, give the following a read...

Remember how the evos told us that human-chimp ancestry was a slam dunk? Think again…LOL!

Humans More Related To Orangutans Than Chimps, Study Suggests

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090618084304.htm

3 posted on 07/13/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nova (I think it was) had a fascinating show about the differences between chimps and humans.

One experiment used a puzzle box. You do 4 steps and the last step you open a door and take out a treat. 3 of the steps are phony. All you really have to do is open the door and take the treat. They demonstrated the steps to human children. They mimicked the steps exactly every time. They demonstated the steps to a chimps. They skip the extraneous steps and go right for the door. Human children were trying to please the adult. The monkeys just wanted the treat.

Another test, they put a treat under 3 cups. They pointed to the cup that hid the treat. Human kids understood the gesture and went right for the treat cup. Chimps could not grasp the concept of getting information from the gesture. (Dogs get the pointing gesture perfectly too).

I don’t pretend to know what it all means but it was interesting.


4 posted on 07/13/2009 10:01:58 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Where PhD really means Piled Higher and Deeper”


5 posted on 07/13/2009 10:02:34 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think humans are closer related to sloths.


6 posted on 07/13/2009 10:09:13 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: xcamel

Liberal University professors are looking to humanize chimps into something they can have sex with, since Democrat Women are bitchy and do not have enough hair.


7 posted on 07/13/2009 10:09:46 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: GodGunsGuts
One only needs to visit liberal protesters to see this for themselves.

Was the Dem convention last year where the protesters were planning to throw feces on the police, so they were kept segregated (locked up in cages)?

8 posted on 07/13/2009 10:15:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Wooly

“...since Democrat Women...do not have enough hair.”

Would that it were universally true!


9 posted on 07/13/2009 10:22:11 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
But this idiotic article fails to address the “slam dunk” evidence of Endogenous retrovirus, and repeatedly conflates genetic DNA comparisons with genomic DNA comparisons.

The fact is that a human gene and a chimp gene are around 98% the same.

The fact is that over the entire genome we line up with chimps over 90%.

This “they compared only similar regions” is like claiming O.J. was innocent because the DNA analysis only looked at points of DNA similarity between the samples left at the murder scene and the defendant.

10 posted on 07/13/2009 10:34:34 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Wooly

ROTFL!!!


11 posted on 07/13/2009 10:41:31 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“At present, the DNA sequence differences between these genomes clearly indicate a much lower level than 98 to 99 percent. In fact, one evolutionary study suggests it may be as low as 86 percent or less. In addition, the complex functional aspects of genes and their regulatory networks differ markedly between humans and chimps and play a more important role than DNA sequence by itself.

The DNA data, both structural and functional, clearly supports the concept of humans and chimps created as distinct separate kinds. Not only are humans and chimps genetically distinct, but only man has the innate capacity and obligation to worship his Creator.7”

Its interesting to see how these “scientists” at this site jump from one conclusion to a totally unrelated one.

EVEN IF the similarity between a human genome and a Chimpanzee genome is 86%, and they allege only one study says this without mentioning the study or its date, they immediately conclude that evolutionary theory is incorrect. Then then leap to ANOTHER unrelated conclusion - that Chimps and Humans have no connection evolutionarily.

They would have us believe that ALL the chemical, osteological, genetic, behavioral, etc. similarities between all living organism is a mere matter of chance and there is no biological connection between the bodies of humans and other living organisms. This flies in the face of simple logic.

They BASE these ideas on their own peculiar interpretation of a passage in Genesis which they chose to interpret as inferring that, since evolution itself is not mentioned, and since it states God created man out of the dust of the earth, evolution is impossible.

The only thing impossible about these people are their thought processes.

If you want to believe God did not use evolution to create man from lower beings because He didn't detail it in Genesis, be my guest. But like other people in the past who attacked things like the heliocentric theory of the solar system based on flawed and biased interpretations of scripture, the more data that is generated on the subject, the more flawed and unbelievable your claims are.

Evolution is a fact of science. Live with it. Instead of spinning your wheels on preposterous arguments like this one, you should in stead be arguing that the existence of evolution does NOT refute a belief in Divine Creation OR in the scriptures. Instead, evolution can be reconciled with scripture through a correct interpretation of what is essentially a theological and moral document - the Bible. The Bible is a document filled with allegory and symbolism to explain moral teachings and point the road towards eternal salvation - NOT a biology text.

12 posted on 07/13/2009 10:46:07 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“One of the main problems with a comparative evolutionary analysis between human and chimp DNA...”

One of? Yeah, one of a huge amount since they can’t and won’t ever find a link, as much as they really want to in order to support their belief that there is no God.


13 posted on 07/13/2009 10:47:37 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Wooly; xcamel
No doubt there are those among the edumacated elite in this country who seek justification for having had sex with chimps. Then there are those who just don't care and do it anyway.

It is time to purge their kind from the ranks.

14 posted on 07/13/2009 10:47:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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15 posted on 07/13/2009 10:51:14 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: taxesareforever
as much as they really want to in order to support their belief that there is no God.

I am a scientist who believes in God. There are many others.
16 posted on 07/13/2009 10:52:17 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: GodGunsGuts
It seems the 1% difference of genetics for the 99% of what makes us totally different. How come humans do not evolve into monkeys and monkeys evolve into humans more often if it ever happened once?
17 posted on 07/13/2009 10:54:13 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: mysterio

I am a scientist who believes in God. There are many others.


18 posted on 07/13/2009 10:55:30 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Over and over, they try to twist facts to substantiate their own flawed ideas about scriptures.

Its really amazing how LONG you can draw one of these threads out by lobbing “fact bombs” at these people.


19 posted on 07/13/2009 11:00:11 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: taxesareforever

I believe in God, the scriptures and evolution and have no problem reconciling those beliefs.

Nor do a large number of other evolutionists.


20 posted on 07/13/2009 11:01:16 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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