Posted on 06/10/2009 1:47:46 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
Glenn Greenwald passes along a clip of Richard Wolffe discussing his new Barack Obama biography, “Renegade,” on G. Gordon Liddy’s talk show, in an interview that rather quickly dovetails into Liddy’s conspiracy theories about Obama’s citizenship.
LIDDY: You mentioned distractions. One of these distractions right now is these lawsuits that take the position that he is not constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States because he is not a naturally-born citizen. Now, he could clear that up in an instant by producing a genuine birth certificate. And yet he refuses to do it. He says he has one but he won’t do it. What is behind that? Hubris or what? WOLFFE: Well, I’m going to differ with you on this one. This came up during the campaign. A copy of the birth certificate is out there. Anyone can see it. He was born in Hawaii. There are documents from the state of Hawaii that prove it. I don’t know what else you really expect me to do.
LIDDY: Well, here’s the thing. The document you speak of is a “certificate of live birth,” which is not a birth certificate. You can’t get a passport with that, you can’t even register your kids…
WOLFFE: Yes you can. That’s what I do. That’s what everyone does. The certificate of live birth is exactly what you get a passport with.
LIDDY: No, it’s a birth certificate.
WOLFFE: That’s — the copy of the birth certificate, everyone has copies of birth certificates. They use them all the time. Nobody hands out the one original document.
LIDDY: No, I wouldn’t expect them to.
WOLFFE: When you go to the DMV you take a copy with you. You don’t take the real… and it’s an official copy, it has to be embossed and stamped, it’s not just like a xerox. But that’s what it is, and it’s widely accepted.
LIDDY: Why is it redacted? Why is it redacted?
WOLFFE: I haven’t seen any redactions.
LIDDY: The one that’s on the internet, that’s the one that I’ve seen, and that one has the serial number redacted.
WOLFFE: I have no idea. I’ve seen one with serial numbers on it and everything. So I don’t know what the problem is here. Do you have an idea of where he was born if it wasn’t in Hawaii?
LIDDY: Yeah, there’s an affidavit from his grandmother that says that she observed the birth in Mombassa, Kenya.
WOLFFE: Yeah. You know, I just think that that is completely false.
Well, Wolffe thinks it false. That settles it folks! Whew, glad that’s over.
Liddy: “He says he has one but he won’t do it. What is behind that? Hubris or what?”
Wolffe: I’ll simply talk about a related matter and avoid your question. Hopefully, you’ll look like an extremist.
Liddy complies.
Now, if someone wants to argue that a COLB is sufficient to close this entire issue, I would disagree with them. But to declare that we have a "Birth Certificate" on record and that THAT is sufficient to close the issue really sends up a red flag for me. It's just blatantly untrue.
What he should have asked Wolffe is which hospital Obama was born in, Kapiolani or Queens, since there’s conflicting information given by Obama and members of his family.
Stop this hate speech. Shep Smith said that it was hateful extremists questioning Obama’s birth certificate that caused the nutjob to shoot up the Honocaust Museum. No lie - he said that.
A Birth Certificate is a "Certificate of Live Birth". That's the name that is on the CDC document that was issued to the state that gives guidance about what the state's version should like like. This document is also referred to sometimes as "The Long Form Birth Certificate". It's the one that has the most detailed information possible about the individual's identity.
What is being shown as Barry's "Birth Certificate" is actually a "Certification of Live Birth", or what is also commonly referred to as the "Short Form Birth Certificate".
Whether Obama was born in the States or if the internet version is fake or not, I'll leave to other people because frankly I don't know but am skeptical at best of his citizenship bona fides.
But, it is without question, that the "Certification of Live Birth" AKA "Short Form Birth Certificate", is just as valid as the original, longer document. To argue anything else, is just nonsense.
I wonder if G. Gordon still has any contacts with the CIA?
The question is valid because Hawaii also gave "Certification of Live Birth" documents to children NOT born in Hawaii, actually children born in other countries.
He's so gay.
There, I said it.
Agreed. It’s the state legally & officially stating that that the information provided is correct & true according to the filed paperwork. Hawaii has legally stated that BHO is a citizen, born in Hawaii when it was a state. There are multiple high-resolution non-doctored non-redacted photos of that document floating around (not to be confused, as so many seem to willfully do, with the prior doctored & redacted low-res POS scan). BHO wins that line of reasoning until someone can get their hands on the in-vault original. Let it go guys until you can get PROOF otherwise.
I'm not saying it doesn't have possible Presidential implications, but for EVERYTHING else, it's a perfectly legitimate birth document. It will allow you to prove your citizenship in a court of law, it can be proof that allows you to register to vote and it can get you enlisted in the service.
The Republican of Hawaii knows about Obama’s real birth certificate or lack therefo, so does the GOP top brass. And they are going along with it. So don’t waste time and energy. Just ask our own GOP people, if they don’t give a shlt, why should you?
Shut up smelly monkey. Let the PEOPLE have their say. <);~)
A valid theory. Now get it into court-ready legal form and submit it via someone who has standing. Yammering about it on the innertubes doesn’t get us anywhere.
“I wonder if G. Gordon still has any contacts with the CIA”
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My mouth is watering at the prospect of this....
p.s. that’s the Republican governor
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