Biomimicry: why the world is full of intelligent design (they admit ID, then credit evolution!!!)

Telegraph ^ | June 8, 2009 | Sanjida O'Connell

[GodGunsGuts]

Biomimicry: why the world is full of intelligent design

Forget human ingenuity - the best source of ideas for cutting-edge technology might be in nature, according to experts in 'biomimicry'

We humans like to think we're pretty good at design and technology – but we often forget that Mother Nature had a head start of 3.6 million years. Now, the way that geckoes climb walls, or hummingbirds hover, is at the centre of a burgeoning industry: biomimicry, the science of "reverse-engineering" clever ideas from the natural world....

[GodGunsGuts]

With reference to the ENTIRE ARTICLE above:

[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[Julia H.]

Because it is altogether impossible that an intelligent designer could work through evolution, of course.

[metmom]

Just call it *Mother Nature* and we’re all set.

[Moonman62]

Cool article. Thanks for posting it.

[Dutchboy88]

What exactly do you think evolution is if not random mutation, natural selection and common descent? All of these rely upon no design, direction, control or management. So, what part of this would a Designer implement?

[TypeZoNegative]

Evolution is just God’s way of doing quality control.

[stubernx98]

Intelligent design = cross breeding, plant splicing, cross pollination, and eating frogs

[Julia H.]

Can evolution, like any natural phenomena, not appear to occur by chance in humans' limited perception, but actually be driven by an intelligent being? I don't know why God would chose evolution, or why he wouldn't chose evolution. I'm not God. But I'm not going to throw evolution out the window just because some atheists (and many believers) tout it as the death of faith.

[Ira_Louvin]

I must have missed the part of the article that showed any empirical evidence supporting “creation science”

GGG- please explain what empirical data you have to support your assertion in posting this article?

[AndrewC]

Can evolution, like any natural phenomena, not appear to occur by chance in humans' limited perception, but actually be driven by an intelligent being?

Maybe. But the problem with that is that the chances being discussed are in the realm of supermiracles.

For instance. The following picture shows several pieces of wood which fit together in a certain pattern.

Imagine putting them in a larger container and shaking. How long do you suppose it would take before they become this?

I know that Darwinians insist that velcro is involved somewhere in the picture, but I don't buy that.

[BrandtMichaels]

I must have missed your posting on the 101 reasons for a young earth!

You simply must read it - it is most telling the way the evolutionists decided to pick just one point to nit pick and decry the whole article. You and your ilk are so ingenious.

/s

no wait

/triple dog sarc...

[Ira_Louvin]

The lack of empirical evidence is not nit picking.

If you make an assertion you need to have the evidence to support it.

I also noticed that you failed to address my question.

Avoiding the difficult questions seems to be a common creationist tactic, that and name-calling. But I guess one must play to ones strengths.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[AndrewC]

GGG- please explain what empirical data you have to support your assertion in posting this article?

What the heck are you talking about? Posting an article requires no assertion. There may exist implications or reasons but no assertion of anything is required. Besides that, complain to the "Telegraph" if you don't like their title. The comment in parentheses after the title is an expression of exactly what happens in the article.

[Jeff Gordon]

Why do arguments against evolution always come down to ad hominem attacks?

[Jeff Gordon]

How long do you suppose it would take before they become this?

When you have millions or years, who cares how long it would take. It will get done.

[Jeff Gordon]

Avoiding the difficult questions seems to be a common creationist tactic, that and name-calling.

When logic and reason are not on your side, what is left?

[AndrewC]

When you have millions or years, who cares how long it would take. It will get done.

Oh yeah, the Liberal philosophy, just keep printing money. Millions of years is not enough. Billions of years is not enough. Trillions of years is not enough. Quadrillions of years is not enough. Quintillions of years is not enough. Sextillions of years is not enough. Septillions of years is not enough, even if you are British.

Shuffle a deck of cards fairly. Now check to see if the deck is in order with aces to kings for each suit and the suits in club, diamonds, hearts and spades sequence. Keep shuffling and checking until the deck is in the described order. There are

52 ! = 8.06581752 × 10⁶⁷

sequences. There have been

60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25 * 20 000 000 000 * 10e15 = 6.31152 × 10³³

femtoseconds(approximately and liberally so) since the big bang. If you shuffled the deck and were able to check it every femtosecond since the beginning of the universe, you'll still be a fairly unlikely to have succeeded in the shuffle. Unless you are pretty lucky. Kinda like Darwin is said to be.

P.S. Even if we used Planck Time the chore would involve on the order of 20,000 ages of the universe in the calculation.

60 * 60 * 24 * 365.25 * 20 000 000 000 * 5.4 * 10e44 = 3.4082208 × 10⁶³

[BrandtMichaels]

So do you read all books w/o taking context into account?