Posted on 06/04/2009 8:50:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
101 evidences for a young age of the earth...and the universe
Can science prove the age of the earth?
There are many different categories of evidence that the cosmos and the earth are much younger than is generally asserted today...
(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...
Thanks again for the daily laugh. Some of the entries on that list are real howlers!
An all-powerful God can do anything, which does mean that anything can be explained by the unsatisfying “God just did it that way” argument.
However, even supernatural miracles can leave evidence.
I agree with you. Nobody really knows. Except God. So I just let him worry about it.
The origin of the Earth is really none of my business. How I live while on the Earth is should be my focus.
Wouldn’t you agree that the science of global warming has been hijacked by kooks, and is in fact evidence of “Stupid Science”?
We see scientists ‘surprised’ by discoveries in many fields. I generally don’t think of them as stupid, as much as somewhat unrealistic to think they know more than they do at times.
When El Nino and El Nina were discovered, the scientific community nearly came unhinged, blaming everything under the sun on these “new” anomolies. Now you hardly even hear the terms any longer.
Just recently the sun has pulled the rug out from under the common understandings of it’s cycles.
I just think it’s silly the way scientists think everyone is a heretic (for lack of a better term), when they won’t buy into every word that drops from their lips.
I do find their work very interesting, but I also consider myself to be a realist, and I don’t think we as humans are quite as smart as we think we are at times.
“Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience.
Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.
If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. [1 Timothy 1.7]”
—St. Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354-430)
I truly believe this. And so, I see no problem accepting evolution AND the idea that God created the world.
Interesting... thanks.
It sure can...
for certain values of "science".
Human population growth. Less than 0.5% p.a. growth from six people 4,500 years ago would produce today’s population. Where are all the people? if we have been here much longer?
Yeah and 6 flies can produce a trillion desendents in 5 years, so the fact we ain't up to our necks in flies must mean the earth is less than 2 years old.
War, Crime, Plagues, etc? Ever hear of those?
Let me guess, You are really an Atheist and are posting this stuff just to make Christians look bad
Augustine—The City of God Against the Pagans
II Of the Falseness of the history which ascribes many thousands of years to times gone by
“Let us, then, omit the conjectures of men who know not what they say, when they speak of the nature and origin of the human race. … They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed.”
My pleasure :o)
The “folding” in the photo in the article is nothing compared to what is readily visible along the coast of California.
At a beach in northwest Santa Barbara, there is a cut next to the parking lot that has a completely un-cracked fold that begins at a pin point center. It is absolute proof that it occurred while wet.
GGG is a parody poster...posts totally outrageous silly things, then responds to post in over-the-top cliches and non-sequiters...he’s a hoot when you understand his purpose here on FR...magritte
Seriously, there is nothing that science can do to convince me God did not have a hand in creating the universe, and our planet. How old is the earth? Who cares. But I do think it is far younger than what science-with-an-objective tells us. And what about the Dinosaurs? I believe in the time of Noah, man populated only a tiny area of the Earth. It is not unthinkable that creatures not written about in the Bible roamed other continents of the planet.
It’s a real yuck fest. The creationists balk at the evos for taking such liberties with science, yet reading this list tells me that Creationists are the worst offenders because most of their “proof” is based upon assumptions of a static universe.
ANY equation looks simple if you remove all but one of the variables. Which is exactly what appears to be going on here - Remove any variables that are inconvenient to you, and only leave the ones that help your cause.
Lists like this do more harm than help to their cause.
Finally a voice of reason on this thread!
I used to live in Santa Barbara. What beach are you talking about. Maybe I’ll give it a looksee next time I’m up that way.
Yes, thank you very much. While I don’t subscribe that everything on the list may necessarily be true (as all reasoning of man is subject to flaws), I do see there is ample evidence that “Scientists” are largely ignorant of natural laws around them. Hence, we have “theories.” And yes, I understand the difference in the term theory as it applies to science.
However, when all is said and done, while we have come a long way, I think when we meet our maker, and all is revealed in His own due time and pleasure, so many pompous and proud “scientists” and outright liars and deceivers will look more foolish then than do bloodletters and alchemists look to us now. Even a period of 100 years causes so many paradigm shifts, I take all “science” related to age of earth with a grain of salt.
I personally do not believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old, but that it has been about that much time since the fall. I also do not know that our term we use for “days” is consistent with the use of time utilized by God, as He has stated “Behold I come quickly.” While true, it does not obviously match with our concept of time, as He is infallible.
Still, I know of no record that indicates the time between Adam/Eve’s creation and that of the fall, so I do not know the period of time between the creation and fall. Therefore, I have no problem accepting that the Earth is older than 6,000 years, yet far younger than man’s notions. I also have no problem accepting an old earth, but with a growing human population (after the fall) only having been around a short time.
Hope that can be insightful to anyone.
More of your completely non-scientific claptrap again I see.
You creationistas are really grabbing at straws even more frantically.
“It is not unthinkable that creatures not written about in the Bible roamed other continents of the planet.”
I concur, and yet we don’t find it odd that nearly every major culture has “myths” about “dragons” and giant lizards found in their society, including the Bible. Granted, there are other fantastic creatures in the Bible, which may not be literal, ie he Beast in Revelations, but the Bible is not without the realm of possibility of being such a record itself.
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