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You said — It’s true that believing Christians turn off Jews. But it’s also true that no one else on this planet gives a damn about them.
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Not all Christians are in the same boat, about the Jews. There are significant numbers of Christians that practically qualify as Jew-haters and Palestinian lovers.
BUT, there is a very specific and smaller group of Christians who have a very specific theology of believing exactly what God says about Israel and that all that God says will happen with Israel will happen exactly as God says. That group is described precisely in the post I did earlier.
See Post #28 for that explanation. It pays to know which of those Christians you’re dealing with, when you talk to Christians about Israel.
If you want , you can continue here.
Here is an almost complete list of the Jewish Caucus, and they should be ashamed of themselves for their silence on Obama's tragic Israel policy.
Cross thread Reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253566/posts?page=1 
Guess what?
It’s unlocked now.
A PLAN TO SOLVE THE
DEMOGRAPHIC PROBLEM
By Professor Paul Eidelberg
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/oct01/eidelberg.htm
Worth reading.
Most Christians don't fit into those silly categories. How do you think Israel has consistently had high support from US citizens over the years - 70% to 80% and higher depending on what questions are asked? With almost 90% of Americans considering themselves Christians, we can assume that a large majority of Christians support Israel.
Here's an interesting history of polls:
US Public Support of Israel/Palestinians
Polls that ask if Israel has a right to exist come in at 80% plus.
Unless they've been replaced by Muslims, black Americans have historically been the most anti-Semitic group in the US. Maybe some of the polls reflect black Christian attitudes, but Christian support for Israel is still a large majority.
Zionism is the expression of the will of a free people.
And our terrorist supporting treasonous president stupidly does not know the difference.
You can find these distinctions right here on Free Republic, with those who oppose Israel as having any significance in Bible prophecy arguing against these things.
And also, you can read statements from churches and pastors who support Palestinian issues over Israel. You’ll find that these churches are in the groups outlined in the information that I gave.
There are specific reasons having to do with theology as to why these congregations and these pastors are not supportive of Israel and work on behalf of the Palestinians. Those are the theological issues outline in the information provided.
Now, in regards to how many Christians are in the nation, you’ll find included in there cults groups such as Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormonism — both are the two largest non-Christian cult groups in the United States. Although they “self-identify” as Christian, they are teaching against the doctrines of Christianity and thus have never been considered (at any time in their respective histories) as Christian, in any way, shape or form.
Those are simply the two largest cult groups that say they are Christian (but are not) and they’ll identify in the polls as saying they are Christian.
There are a number of other cult groups, too (I can think of a couple in Oklahoma right now, one of which is in Eastern Oklahoma that Timothy McVeigh had something to do with; at least there was some connection there...).
Then there are people who say they are Christian, because they think if you’re a nice person, born in America and do nice things for people and try to be good — that means they are Christian (when they really don’t have any idea what the Gospel is; you ask them and they simply don’t know...). There are a lot of them. Any Christian who is involved in Evangelism knows that. That’s one of the criteria for being involved in Evangelism, to be able to identify people who think they are Christian but really are not (because that would be a real problem for their own personal salvation).
As it turns out, there may be large numbers who think they are good people and good citizens and thus “Christian” — but there are probably more like in the area of 10-20% Christians in this nation, total.
A lot of people think there is a god, but Muslims do, too. Moonies think there is a god, too. Most every last single cult group think there is a god. Even Satanists think there is a god and they hate him... LOL...
And then there are the political views that some have which will influence their views for support of Israel.
The bottom line is — that there is a *significant number* of Christians who work against Israel, work for Palestinian issues, don’t have the support of the pastors in the congregations and teach the people something that the Bible doesn’t say.
Israelis sometimes are shy about Christians because of how badly they’ve been mistreated and persecuted in the past, but those have been related to those Christians who are the same types which do not support Israel today.
And slowly, it is becoming known to Israeli leaders *which* Christians are the ones who truly support them — as God’s people per the Bible and as a *nation who will always stand before God* forever.
Other Christians think that Israel is *finished* before God and has been *replaced* by the Christians. This is a false theology, but it is rampant in the church and has been for centuries, a very long time, starting back in around the 4th Century or so.
You apparently don’t know all the “ins and outs” of the support of Israel and from which Christians — but there is a distinctive there.
You said — Zionism DOES NOT equal Racism.
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There is such a thing as Christian Zionism, which is a group of Christians supporting Zionism.
But, you won’t find that certain group of Christians supporting Zionism per that article in Post #28.
That outlines which Christian groups support Israel based on their theological teachings and which do not support Israel.
Where you will find Christian Zionism is in that group identified as the *solid supporters* of Israel (per that post #28).
Marxists.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/Marxist_Antisemitism.htm
“...In the Marxist view, the problem is not the attitude of the outside world, but rather in the essence of Judaism, which is according to Marx, “Huckstering and its preconditions” and which is is an intrinsic part of Judaism, found in the “Penateuch and the Talmud.” We can recognize that all of the above are vulgar racism of the worst sort. It suited Marx, whose grandfather was a rabbi, to believe that his conversion and assimilation had eliminated these obnoxious traits from his own character. The communist revolution would magically solve the Jewish problem, just as it would magically solve everything else...”
Terrorist In Chief,is not running this show IMO,Hogatha Hillary and Axelrod Inc.are.
Oh, I've read about them. I just believe they're minority groups that receive attention all out of proportion to their numbers. You can add up Catholics, Southern Baptists, Methodists, African Methodist Episcopals (?) and a few others and you'd have 80% - 90% of all Christians in the US.
As it turns out, there may be large numbers who think they are good people and good citizens and thus “Christian” — but there are probably more like in the area of 10-20% Christians in this nation, total.
Lol, complete nonsense. So, people aren't what they consider themselves to be, but only what you consider them to be? You're much too concerned with all these small groups and distinctions. That's the sort of thing the MSM obsesses over when they won't to show all Christians in a negative light.
OThuga has more of a
GOD PROBLEM
than a Jewish Problem.
When he touches God’s Chosen . . . the traitorous One touches the ‘apple of God’s eye.’
God will deal with him most decisively in God’s time and God’s ways . . . probably fairly dramatically . . .
Ditto the oligarchy behind puppet OThuga.
But Obama is head of stste. He will have to take the sliings , arrows and bricks now being gathered to throw at him.
I am stocking up on popcorn.
The other thread is not locked:
Obama’s Jewish problem ( Treason Alert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2253566/posts
I am stocking up on beer to go with the popcorn. Beer Goggles may be a necessity.
A Jewish problem for Obama? Wishful thinking. Obama could actively help Ahmadinejad accomplish his “solution” for Israel, and after the media got through a few choruses of “It Was Everybody’s Fault/Nobody’s Fault/Republicans’ Fault,” Obama would still get at least 70% of the Jewish vote in 2012. Yawn.
Of course it doesn’t and the proper recognition of Zionism began long before that term was ever coined. John Adams was the first American President to proclaim that the Jewish people deserve the right to return to their former homeland.
So, here is “President” Obama, claiming to be a committed Christian and never being a Muslim, but I have to ask:
“What kind of committed Christian desires to destroy Israel?”
“What kind of committed Christian does not profess the belief that Jesus will return and establish his Kingdom in Jerusalem after all of the Jews are returned to Israel?”
“What kind of committed Christian remains silent about the worldwide persecution of Christians by Muslims?”
If there are any Christians who voted for Obama because he said that he was a committed Christian, then they are bigger fools than the Jews who voted for him because he said that he would support the Jewish State of Israel.
ping
Israel bump.
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