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Pelosi frustrated by Senate [Spector, Snowe & Collins threaten to pull out. Kill Porkulus]
Politico ^ | 02/11/2009 | By GLENN THRUSH

Posted on 02/11/2009 3:29:34 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Nancy Pelosi had heard enough, thank you very much, after two enraged House Democrats rose at Tuesday’s caucus meeting to bitterly denounce the Senate’s take-it-or-leave-it offer on the stimulus.

It wasn’t because Pelosi wasn’t ticked off herself — quite the opposite.

“At a certain point, after a couple of members had expressed themselves, she asked that future speakers not address that issue because it was reminding her how angry she was,” said Rep. Anthony D. Weiner (D-N.Y.), who was in the room.

When Pelosi emerged from behind closed doors a few minutes later to address the press, she wore the broadest possible smile on her face. But her words expressed the grimmest possible resolve, as she girded for a conference committee battle on the stimulus destined to yield, at best, partial victory.

“Usually you go to conference and split the difference between the two houses — that may not be the case here,” Pelosi said. “At these conferences, my experience has been that the White House has a seat at the table — that they weigh in.”

Both Obama and Pelosi are hoping to restore significant stimulus spending eliminated by the Senate, especially $21 billion in school construction and technology grants, $10.3 billion in COBRA insurance and $8.6 billion in new Medicaid coverage for the unemployed.

The Senate passed its $830 billion stimulus bill Tuesday — but it wouldn’t have passed at all without the support of three moderate Republicans and a conservative Democrat who helped the Democratic majority obtain the 60 votes necessary to stop a filibuster.

Majority Leader Harry Reid’s solution has created its own set of problems for the speaker. Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) all have publicly insisted that the measure emerge more or less unchanged...

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhostimulus; collins; obama; pelosi; pelosiporkpackage; porkulus; snowe; specter; vietcongress
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

You’re not mistaken, I read that too.


101 posted on 02/11/2009 5:26:13 AM PST by HollyB
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To: AvOrdVet
The Socialist Dems should have never HAD your vote!

Yep! And what is bad is the Republican Party gave her a lot of money so they could win that seat. It didn't take her long to flip the bird to the GOP.

102 posted on 02/11/2009 5:26:46 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Jim Robinson

Glad you give this it’s own thread.

Bump


103 posted on 02/11/2009 5:28:34 AM PST by maggief (Rome is burning . Chickens are roosting.)
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To: freekitty

To paraphrase Braveheart, she thinks the people exist to give her position, not that her position exists to give people freedom....


104 posted on 02/11/2009 5:28:35 AM PST by WarriorPoet
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To: FR_addict
Maybe some of the moderate (or not as liberal) Dems would think twice about voting for a bill that socializes health care and throws grandma and grandpa under the bus.

I hope so, but they really only look out for themselves and in this case, they have and will have their privileged health care coverage.

105 posted on 02/11/2009 5:29:26 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: WarriorPoet

What we need to do is pick off one of the Democrats who is up for re-election in a conservative leaning state. Why can’t we go on more of the offensive. They got those three nitwits to cross party lines, we should be working on someone other than Ben Nelson.


106 posted on 02/11/2009 5:31:06 AM PST by teddyballgame
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To: romanesq
Failure will further remove the veneer more than it already has. People are starting to realize first that the bill is garbage, second, that since the bill is garbage its backers smell just as bad all the way to the top. It’s building. And btw, Obama’s numbers are falling. You know that it is having a bad affect when the media starts citing his “old” polling numbers that were higher before porkulus stank up the place.

Well, that's kind of my point. Regardless of what numbers the media is citing to continue to prop him up, Obama is fully aware of what the real numbers are.

107 posted on 02/11/2009 5:31:25 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He is still in campaign mode and I am confident he will remain that way throughout his presidency, however long that may be. He is no leader, he is an actor.


108 posted on 02/11/2009 5:31:28 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Jim Robinson

As usual, Pelosi is overplaying her hand!

Maybe we can tip the scales, it seems like the Three Amigos are having some buyer remorse.


109 posted on 02/11/2009 5:31:30 AM PST by incredulous joe
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To: wita
I absolutely agree with your post: the AARP no more represents the interests of the elderly in this country than does Jack Kevorkian. And if the AARP intends to turn their interest-conflicted blind eyes, the elderly must somehow be informed that this provision which directly impacts their lives (& deaths!) exists via other means.

I have sent the link to Betsy McCaughey's piece in Bloomberg (which someone also linked above) Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan and links to contact pages for their representatives & Senators as well as the AARP to demand some answers for their lack of concern about this to every senior I know with an email address & suggested they pass this on to their contacts.

But the AARP is not the only bogus organization showing its true colors by letting these secret provisions pass under the radar. These dishonest changes are being passed without the knowledge or input of the medical community as well, evidently with the AMA's blessing. The way docs practice will be adversely impacted in a profoundly dramatic way, so I have sent links to all the MDs in my family hoping they will spread the word to their colleagues. As per their usual, the AMA doesn't seem to be interested in protecting the professional interests of its members, so docs in this country will once again have to fend for themselves.

Before his election, Obama repeatedly promised voters he would institute a "Sunshine Before Signing" policy giving the public ample time to review & comment upon legislation. As we've seen with the Lily Ledbetter law and SCHIPS & others, that promise turned out to be a big fat lie along with all the other broken promises such as his "No lobbyists will work in my White House" whopper. His attempt to sneak socialized medicine into the "Stimulus" bill hidden underneath all the (deliberately?) attention-hogging pork is about as arrogantly deceitful a slap in the face to the American people as it gets, but it's a particularly egregious assault against Seniors & their physicians.

Both these groups need to know that this administration & the organizations which purport to promote their interests intend to royally screw them with this trojan horse bill under the false pretext of 'stimulating' the economy. What's become increasingly impossible to deny is that the only thing this bill will 'stimulate' is the massive life & death power that entrenched government bureaucrats will wield over the the citizenry of this nation.

110 posted on 02/11/2009 5:31:46 AM PST by leilani
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To: Jim Robinson

The economy would recover w/o this monstrosity and is showing signs of doing just that. If this passes that recovery is more doubtful.

Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Guidance


111 posted on 02/11/2009 5:33:49 AM PST by bray (The District of Corruption fits Obama like a Glove)
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To: wita
" ... In some ways the NRA offers more value for the buck. I’ll bet they wish they had 40 million members."

In some ways.

I have been a long time member of the NRA, and like anything else I haven't always agreed with them, as I'm an Atilla The Hun Conservative. LOL

They certainly would like 40 million members.

112 posted on 02/11/2009 5:35:01 AM PST by G.Mason (Each one of us will have to decide whether we will fight this government machine, or join it.)
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To: Rebelbase

From what I’ve seen. After a few threats to social security.
They’ll run and hide under the bed.


113 posted on 02/11/2009 5:35:32 AM PST by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Kenya.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Dhims don't need the 3 RINO's to pass this pile of crap. They need them for the 'bipartisan' label.

It's not much, but it does give the Repubs 'some' control...oh and the 'take it or leave it' is something to use later.

114 posted on 02/11/2009 5:39:55 AM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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To: xtinct

“Unless Spector, Collins, and Snowe pull out, they will forever be responsible for wrecking American lives.”

“Kerry wrecked American lives in 1971...ruined innocent military folks’ reputations...unforgivable!!”

If those three RINOS take rank with the psychotic, incontinent, marxist-punk democrats, they will finally molt into the consummate, scu*bag snakes that all the goose-stepping, lockstep democrats are. (There are no words sufficient to describe the duplicity, the mendacity, the low-life antics of scu*bag Democrats. Behind the eyes of Democrats is a preview of he&&.)

IMHO


115 posted on 02/11/2009 5:39:58 AM PST by ripley
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To: FR_addict; Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2180833/posts

List of email phone and fax number for all senate members.


116 posted on 02/11/2009 5:41:00 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Liz; Jim Robinson

The porkulus needs to be stopped. Too bad it won’t happen. The 3 R Senators should pull their support so that this whole spending exercise (socialism masked as a stimulus bill) will be wholly owned by the Dems. No R votes in the House. There should be no R votes in the Senate.

Jim, keep up the good work. I saw the video of your visit to Senator Specter’s office. Very impressive. Hopefully it will be effective.


117 posted on 02/11/2009 5:42:21 AM PST by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Of course his re-election depends on it-—the money dedicated to Acorn is to faciliate stealing the election. Alot of the money in the stimulus bill will not kick in until 2010/2011. Gee, I wonder why? Could it be for the re election season..JMHO


118 posted on 02/11/2009 5:43:23 AM PST by vis a vis
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To: romanesq
And btw, Obama’s numbers are falling. You know that it is having a bad affect when the media starts citing his “old” polling numbers that were higher before porkulus stank up the place.

Oh, not according to the black Dem gal in the Fox & Friend Pundit Pit, who talks really fast and worships Barry, saying that Americans approve two out of three of how her hero is handling the financial situation but disapprove of Republicans.
119 posted on 02/11/2009 5:43:24 AM PST by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Jim Robinson
result in scaling back a $15,000 homebuyer tax credit, a favorite of the Senate GOP, and $11 billion in deduction of taxes on auto purchases, strongly opposed by Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.).

IMO, these two are related to a stimulus idea. Yet, these are the ones that they want to fight over.

This proves to me that it is really just a welfare package disguised as stimulus.

Anyway, thanks for going to the mat.

120 posted on 02/11/2009 5:49:07 AM PST by beachn4fun (Just say NO to the new stimulus (aka welfare) package!)
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