Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
It is absurd in the extreme.
This entire line of conspiracy is ridiculous.
Either Ed Hale is telling the truth, or he's not. It's that simple. Time will tell...
INTREP
By flying across the Pacific?
Just a guess...
I believe that Dunham and infant may have traveled back to the US via England and Canada, but that’s speculation. What we do know is that she went not to Hawaii, but to Seattle.
Well, I disagree that this whole “line” is absurd, I don’t consider it a conspiracy, but that is always a useful way to try and ridicule and shame people into silence.
I think it is part of trying to understand who this man is that has been elected president.
The comment you refer to was within my initial post and attributed to a poster called desertvet, it is not collateral to the main point which is the explanation of the POE.
Please take your festering hostility elsewhere.
What happened to all the stuff we were seeing a few weeks ago, here and elsewhere, about O’s mother, being a minor at the time of his birth, had to have been resident in the U. S. or its territory for a certain length of time in order for her citizenship to be automatically conferred on her child? Was that, too, just idle chatter?
There is absolutely no real-world reason (based on evidence) to think that an 18 year old Dunham even went to Kenya to have her baby. The decree shows that she was in Hawaii when she got married and still in Hawaii when she got divorced.
Ummm, you have a little morsel of freeper dangling from your chin.
WIll one of you repost the information Elsie is asking about? TY
I don’t believe they can just “change the law” as it is written into the Constitution. There is a specific ratification process in place written therein.
Of course, in these days of up-is-down, right-is-wrong who knows what would happen should we receive irrefutable proof that Nobama is not a “natural born citizen”.
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If a desire for truth and reason and a disdain for grade school conspiracy trotted out as probability is 'festering hostility' to you then I plead guilty. This whole line is bullshit and you are perpetuating it.
I think it all still holds and in fact, is premise of many of the arguments against Obama’s eligibility.
It was not, is not idle imho, but as in the case of all of this, getting a legitimate legal forum or court —or the mainstream press—to consider evidence against the eligibility of a democratically elected president is a daunting task.
As for a link to the Clinton's findings, you should direct your questions to Joann37. She is the one that contends nothing has been found. I contend that Berg is working under their direction.
Yes I expect them to follow the letter of the law.
yeah guess that’s how detective work goes, eh?
under every rock is another rock.
Makes sense, seeing how she was in the company of a British subject (citizen of a British colony) at one time or another during her trip. It’s likely that a British airline would be the primary carrier into and out of this British colony.
In a different post, possibly at a different site, Baltimore was mentioned as the next clue, per Ed Hale. I do not know if this was disinformation on Ed’s part, or erroneously posted (intentionally) by the poster, or actually the truth and therefore the POE?
The better route to HI would be a Pacific route. No US POE necessary...
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