'Obama not U.S.-born' meme won't die

Swamp Politics ^ | December 3, 2008 8:09 AM | Frank James

[ckilmer]

There are apparently still people who don't believe President-elect Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and hold therefore that he's ineligible to be president. And they are willing to spend time and money to make their case.

An anti-tax activist from upstate New York who is questioning whether President-elect Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen" eligible for the nation's top job said Tuesday that his non-profit group spent "tens of thousands of dollars" to get his message across in ads in the Chicago Tribune this week.

[seekthetruth]

Truth is, even if he WAS born in Hawaii, he is still not a “natural born” citizen per the Constitution.

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[ryan71]

All Obama has to do is divulge his birth certificate. It sems obvious to me why he does not.

[relictele]

Liberal dictionary:

Meme: things liberals don’t want to believe

Truth: things liberals believe but may not be true but are true because they believe it!

[DieHard the Hunter]

> There are apparently still people who don’t believe President-elect Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and hold therefore that he’s ineligible to be president.

I guess I’m one of the Unbelievers. All it would take to convince me is his real birth certificate showing that he was eligible to be POTUS. Why not show it, Barry?

There’s a real good reason why not!

Amerika has been taken over by a foreign power by stealth from within. I never thought I’d live to see the day.

[Vigilanteman]

Actually, an baby born in a El Paso hospital to illegal alien partents is considered a “natural born” citizen per the modern interpretations of the U.S. Constitution.,P>Since Oba Mao’s mother was a U.S. citizen, this would make him a natural born U.S. citzen if he has a genuine birth certificate from Hawaii and this entire controversy would go away in an instant.

[peace with honor]

help me out with this, what has the SCOTUS decided to do or not do

[SerafinQ]

it was good to hear fox report last night about the citizenship issue and also the hillary constitutional issue in becoming secretary of state.

[cripplecreek]

This needs to be turned back on the democrats. After all he was their candidate and if he can’t legally serve as president, the democrats have defrauded millions of voters out of their vote.

[GovernmentShrinker]

I frankly don’t care at this point. If this issue was going to be pursued, it needed to pursued intensely and professionally BEFORE the election, and really before the Democratic convention. There is simply nothing to be gained at this point by proving that he is not a “natural born citizen”. The only possibly outcome is extreme political destabilization of the US, during a time of extreme economic and political instability around the world. The only people who could possibly benefit from this are terrorists.

President-elect Obama is immensely popular right now, and a SCOTUS ruling that he is ineligible to be President would be quickly followed by a Constitutional amendment changing the eligibility requirements so that he becomes eligible. The votes are there, and the process would be fast-tracked — I’d vote for it, simply to avoid the dangerous destabilization of the US that could literally lead to the demise of the nation. I really think the “conservatives” who are jumping on this bandwagon are allowing themselves to be used as the proverbial “useful idiots” by forces whose chief aim is the destabilization of the US.

[Abathar]

Baraq Hussein Obama (44)*

[MrB]

Just like extending the term of the Presidency through amendment would not apply to a sitting president, such an amendment that you speak of would not affect 0bama.

[autumnraine]

There were plenty of people trying to do something BEFORE the election and we were poo poo’d into not focusing on this, but the ISSUES.

But we were also told it doesn’t matter UNLESS he is elected as he has done nothing wrong if not elected.

So now that he is, we should just let it go? Because he was elected?

Color me confused.

And seriously, the Consitution is important and popularity shouldn’t override the Constitution.

[Mr_Peter]

This is such a waste of time. You all need to take your meds. Never going to happen.

[Kleon]

Truth is, even if he WAS born in Hawaii, he is still not a “natural born” citizen per the Constitution.

I'm still not clear as to how a boy born in America to an American citizen mother cannot be called "natural born."

[Exmachina]

You did not follow this did you ?

This was professional pursued before the election. The Dems and Obama blocked, and misdirected the federal law suite. Do a search on Berg.

Also I cant see that you understand the constitution. It takes a constitutional amendment to change the birth requirement. That takes 3/4 of the states voting on it to ratify it. The votes are not there.

This is truly a constitutional crisis. Wake up.

[IYAS9YAS]

If this issue was going to be pursued, it needed to pursued intensely and professionally BEFORE the election, and really before the Democratic convention.

It was, certainly before the election, and more than likely upon his announcement to run.

The only possibly outcome is extreme political destabilization of the US, during a time of extreme economic and political instability around the world. The only people who could possibly benefit from this are terrorists.

So, the Constitution is invalid?

President-elect Obama is immensely popular right now, and a SCOTUS ruling that he is ineligible to be President would be quickly followed by a Constitutional amendment changing the eligibility requirements so that he becomes eligible.

Popularity has nothing to do with the rule of law, more specifically, the primary law of the land.

I don't think there are enough states willing to defy their conservative bases to muster a constitutional amendment.

I really think the “conservatives” who are jumping on this bandwagon are allowing themselves to be used as the proverbial “useful idiots” by forces whose chief aim is the destabilization of the US.

The majority of the useful idiots are the ones who created the potential Constitutional crisis and failed to vet their candidate. The remainder are those "conservatives" who are willing to abandon the Constitution for convenience.

[Neidermeyer]

If this issue was going to be pursued, it needed to pursued intensely and professionally BEFORE the election
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It was ,, in fact the election hasn’t yet occurred..

President-elect Obama is ...
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Sorry ,, he is not president elect until the electors vote ... rules rules rules ... it doesn’t matter what the graphic he puts up in front of himself reads

a Constitutional amendment changing the eligibility requirements ...would be fast-tracked — I’d vote for it, to avoid the dangerous destabilization of the US that could literally lead to the demise of the nation.
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you’re delusional if you think codifying RAT rulebreaking will stabilize the USA ... you’d be throwing out our foundation , the rule of law.

I really think the “conservatives” who are jumping on this bandwagon are allowing themselves to be used as the proverbial “useful idiots” by forces whose chief aim is the destabilization of the US.
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By running a communist on the RAT ticket Soros had a win-win ,, in some small sense you’re right but we cannot allow his eligibility (either yea or nay) to go undiscovered..

[ClearCase_guy]

President-elect Obama is immensely popular right now, and a SCOTUS ruling that he is ineligible to be President would be quickly followed by a Constitutional amendment changing the eligibility requirements so that he becomes eligible.

Do you think they can get a Constitutional Amendment approved by Dec 15 2008?

[PEACE ENFORCER]

"All Obama has to do is divulge his birth certificate. It sems obvious to me why he does not. "

He did (his campaign staffers)provided a digital image, hoping this would go away, it was revealed as a forged document on many different levels.

Incorrect Seal "for that particular year"

Missing Crease "top fold crease missing (tri fold) as to be placed in an envelope for mailing purposes.

Pixels (when viewed under digital enhancement) around the letters in the name are black & white not colored (no pun intended). paper is colored (pixels should be colored around letters)with print on top shows name on document was altered (forged)

Fuzzy Border. Real documents have a "crisp" border.

So what we have here is a "Fake president elect" only question now is is the U.S. Constitution fake? Will the Supreme Court uphold & defend the Constitution? Guess we'll find out on Friday. AND since Barry IS a fraud & willingly falsified documents will he be prosecuted & possibly spend some time in jail. I hope so.......