Posted on 11/07/2008 8:20:19 AM PST by AndrewWalden
A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obamas upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obamas numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.
Obamas birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obamas birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.
By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obamas campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype.
(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...
The only relevant difference is that Annenberg image was a photograph of an original whereas the rest were scans or only electronic (never printed). The Annenberg image, however created, had to be printed, then embossed, then photographed. The person who photographed it would know where it came from and trusted that source.
That source would have to obtain a seal to perform the embossing and that is why the difference is important. To obtain and use a seal would be noticed by witnesses which so far have not appeared.
There are previous threads concluding that it would be implausible for his mother to travel to Kenya to give birth and travel back all within a few weeks. Also there is ample evidence for a real birth certificate including eye witness testimony of the original and photographs of the certified copies that were sent out (photos are at factcheck).
” Kapiolani Medical Center “
Funny thing, we’ve also heard another medical facility he supposedly was born. His family seems to also think they were present at his Kenyan birth. I guess Obama was “born again”? hahahohohe
Mr Walden is in Hawaii. Maybe he’ll investigate who owned 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy in 1961.
Interesting last sentence of the article.
*Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said the blackened portion is a department file number that was redacted to prevent hackers from breaking into the Health Department’s system.*
Janice Okubo did not redact that when she sent it to Barry. And earlier the most she would say is that it looked like a real COLB, but seemed to missing the the requisite stamp.
Also, she told the St. Petersburg Times “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12944.htm
Andrew, any possibility to look into the history of 6085 Kalanianaloe Hwy address?
There are still questions of the factcheck pictures where the embedded information shows the photos were taken in March/08 while the smears site and Kos site both posted the image on June 12/08. If the factcheck photos were taken first where are the folds on the images posted at kos and smears? Also the factcheck photos show just bits and pieces of the date stamp and seal they do not show the entire back of the document. Why? Did Jr make a phone call from the floor of the Senate to the Dept of Health in HI to request a copy o his C.O.L.B. because he was on the floor in the Senate on June 7/07 delivering a speech on immigration reform?
That's old information (August 13th or earlier) and only refers to the low res image at fight the smears. The Annenberg photos were not available when she made that statement. For the original article, see for example, http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:fisRL6I9VrsJ:www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D2008808130384+Health+Department+spokeswoman+Janice+Okubo&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
Yes, I understand that it is old info. So how did she stumble upon the excuse that it was redacted to prevent hackers? Is that what Obama told her afterwards? Or is she pulling it out of he ass? Or was she complicit and instructed them to redact it?
The folds, the embossed stamp, and the signature were all items that were not visible on the Original Kos Image that even Obama’s website used for a period of time.
There were also issue with distortions and white areas inside the curves and holes in various letters that should not have occurred in a laser printed copy but would have been created in a poorly photoshopped forgery.
Throughout this whole affair that have been a steady stream of subtle adjustments which have been documented by a number of people culminating in the Annenberg document which was released oddly enough after Obama’s first trip to Hawaii. The Annenberg forgery has never been examined by anyone else but the people from Annenberg and according to their analysis they did not have the expertise to determine if it was an original or not.
That fact often gets lost in the discussion, the people from Annenberg had no credentials to speak of in regards to spotting forgeries, they were volunteers with FactCheck.org that were sent to take a picture of the document at Obama’s Chicago headquarters not to determine if it was real or a forgery since they could not prove it was or it wasn’t....
I don't know why factcheck didn't show the reverse but the front of the document is convincing that it was govt generated artifact or it had to be generated using a stamp and seal that would have left witnesses when they were procured. I don't understand your point about the timing of the speech. He could have requested several copies at various times.
>>>It is not likely that an organization like that could keep the origin secret as opposed to the other low res site(s).
What was the origin of the COLB they obtained? Was the origin the campaign tried to pass a forgery that even Janice Okubo said was missing the necessary embossed seal and signature?
I’m not even looking at it now. I had my notes on this when I first tried to bring it to everyone’s attention; but when there was no interest, I don’t even remember what I did with them.
Hey, Gemsbok, we’ve missed you. Pinging Chief Engineer; here’s more for your files.
Right, could have been a different copy, it was almost certainly a scan (not a higher res photo), and was always low res and hard to analyze. The poor photoshopping may have really been poor photoshopping forgery or cleanup or scanner artifacts, but it doesn't matter because they are not the relevant ones.
The Annenburg document is the one that counts here and that one is published with high res photos of embossing and the notary stamp. Those had to be created using tools that would produce witnesses. Where did the embossing tool and rubber stamp come from? If someone at obama HQ used the tools to create them, someone else had to give him those tools.
Hmmm, well presented conspiracy. Barack does look more like Malcom than Obama, sr.
Biglook lives in Hawaii.
Okubo said that about the low res images on Kos and smears. She was not referring to the high res docs at factcheck because those were not published until August 21st after she made that statement. We don't know the origin of that COLB, just that Annenburg people went to obama HQ and photographed it there.
Janice Okubo said Hawaii prints and mails COLB, they don’t do electronic delivery.
>>>There are previous threads concluding that it would be implausible for his mother to travel to Kenya to give birth...
I missed those threads, could you ping me to a few?
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