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Obama plans 'Civilian National Security Force'
The Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Salena Zito

Posted on 11/01/2008 7:49:38 PM PDT by Salena Zito

Barack Obama in his own words explaining how he wants to have a 'Civilian National Security Force' that will be "just as powerful, just as strong and just as funded" as our military.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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To: Centurion2000

The only consolation is that it would drastically change global climate for decades perhaps more than a century. As if that would restrain fanatics ...


261 posted on 11/01/2008 11:36:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: mick

Oh, I have been trying to remember where I read that quote. It has been playing over and over in my mind since I saw this Obama statement a few weeks ago.

I cannot believe this is happening in this country!


262 posted on 11/01/2008 11:39:45 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: staytrue
Let me try this one more time:

1. The officers of the United States Air Force and United States Navy WILL NOT surrender their nuclear weapons to civilians from the President's staff, his hangers on or even his "civilian national security force." You may think there are a bunch of lib Wesley Clark types sitting around that Obama can tap, but there aren't enough. (Granted, you say he wouldn't need the military, so I assume you're talking about civilians.) 2. The "hand-picked" group you are talking about wouldn't be able to retarget the missiles...and what chance is there that the Air Force rank and file is going to retarget missiles for targets on our soil?

3. As you noted, Obama would need to replace the top officers on every missile sub in order to control the Navy's nuclear inventory. Well, even if your ludicrous "replace the Air Force brass with Louis Farrakhan and the folks from ACORN" scenario came true, all it would take to unravel it would be one sub captain and XO willing to say "If President Obama nukes an American city we nuke DC."

Try dealing with reality on this planet.

263 posted on 11/01/2008 11:42:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: floriduh voter

Please watch “The Last Enemy” on PBS Sunday night to see what they can do with electronic monitoring and control of every aspect of our lives.


264 posted on 11/01/2008 11:46:38 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: sonic109

We are watching how a nation is challenged to keep its freedom.


265 posted on 11/01/2008 11:47:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: MHGinTN

I love it when my fellow conservatives express such confidence in the American people. Sadly, the reality is that this nation will succumb rather quickly under the right circumstances and careful application of the combined weapons of isolation, starvation, and confiscation. If you think an election with such different candidates can cause civil division, imagine what isolationa nd starvation will do to polarize the people. There will be two camps of ‘we the people’, and you can guess which side the Marxist central authority will use to ferret out the other side, ‘to establish peace and end pockets of starvation and suffering’.
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I disagree,,,

Americans will take care of other Americans,,,

As I posted “They Won’t Last Till Our Barrels Get Hot”,,,

That”BoogerMan” must eat too,,,

Where will their FOOD come from???

IIRC 60% comes in through the port of NOLA,,,

Who will grow the FOOD in this country if you piss-off the farmers???

Who will run the power plants???

You Can’t Fight City Hall,,,(that’s us)...;0)


266 posted on 11/01/2008 11:48:09 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MHGinTN
The only consolation is that it would drastically change global climate for decades perhaps more than a century. As if that would restrain fanatics ...

Actually it would do something closer to kill 95% of everyone on the planet. That might actually encourage the fanatics.

267 posted on 11/01/2008 11:48:19 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I said this the other day on another thread. This election is a coup. A socialist, Marxist, America-hating coup.

They have been working on this for a very long time, patiently waiting for us to be asleep enough, far enough removed from Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin that we would not see the writing on the wall. Obama is their perfect candidate and I believe he has been groomed his whole adult life for this specific purpose - a socialist Marxist coup that has aims to bring this country down and bring her freedom-loving people to their knees.


268 posted on 11/01/2008 11:50:38 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic (November 4, 2008 - the day Americans will DEFEAT the Obamists.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Filter your assertion through isolation, starvation, and confiscation. Where does most of the population of the nation live, presently? How fast will mayhem cause the vast majority of city dwellers to line up with the central authority? ... You can figure this out. You don’t really need explicit descriptions, they only serve to depress readers.


269 posted on 11/01/2008 11:54:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; staytrue

Mr.Silverback speaks the truth Staytrue,,,

“Lawful Order” comes to mind,,,

You mite check the UCMJ as to what that is,,,

HINT : It Ain’t NUKIN’ The USA!!!


270 posted on 11/02/2008 12:03:01 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Salena Zito
Isn't that what the Department of Homeland Security is all about? The more this clown talks the more that he reveals that he hasn't a clue about what our government is up to already. Or worse, the Obama campaign is cynically presuming that the Americans to which they are speaking haven't a clue.

"You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." - Robert Heinlein

271 posted on 11/02/2008 12:04:47 AM PDT by antonia ("Be the person your dog thinks you are....")
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To: MHGinTN; Allegra

Filter your assertion through isolation, starvation, and confiscation. Where does most of the population of the nation live, presently? How fast will mayhem cause the vast majority of city dwellers to line up with the central authority? ... You can figure this out. You don’t really need explicit descriptions, they only serve to depress readers.
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This stuff is just common sense,,,

That “BOOGERMAN” Ain’t Got The Number Of Troops To Enforce

A Damn Thing That The American People Don’t Want!!! > . <

Think about Baghdad,,,(Iraq),,,

We couldn’t even control ONE city without the

“WILL OF THE PEOPLE”...


272 posted on 11/02/2008 12:24:16 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Salena Zito

bttt


273 posted on 11/02/2008 12:33:27 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: maine-iac7

THANKS. I’M ON IT!!


274 posted on 11/02/2008 12:36:19 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: antonia

Obama’s not talking about a DHS sort of structure, he’s talking about a Gestapo.


275 posted on 11/02/2008 12:52:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Obama's not talking about a DHS sort of structure, he's talking about a Gestapo.

So you say, but if you read the following direct quotes of Obama, your interpretation presumes more than is actually said. I think that I am (post # 271) much closer to what he actually is saying. Either way, Obama is not presidential material.

From an Obama speech in July:

Obama said he would boost the size of the active military, but that the nation's future depends on more than just additional soldiers.

" It also depends on the teacher in East L.A., or the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school working in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa, the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia," he said.

Obama reflected on how the presidencies of Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy both made public service hallmarks of their administration and how the nation was the better for such efforts.

" We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Obama called for greater integration with schools, so that young Americans are better prepared to be active citizens. He said he would make federal assistance conditional on school districts establishing service programs and set the goal of 50 hours of service a year for middle and high school students.

276 posted on 11/02/2008 1:12:08 AM PDT by antonia ("Be the person your dog thinks you are....")
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To: antonia

mmmmmm,,,,So,,,,Does that mean you like O’Bammy ???


277 posted on 11/02/2008 1:20:20 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
mmmmmm,,,,So,,,,Does that mean you like O’Bammy ???

 

Here at freerepublic we have a tradition of being sure of our facts and sourcing them, before we sally out to announce our opinions. Are these standards too high for you? Or is it just that it's a late Saturday night? There are an amazing amount of readily clickable links available on Freerepublic which you can use to answer your question, before you attempt to insult me in public in such sorry language.

If you are truly a Republican, you are at least a bit more intelligent and informed than any Democrat. Okay, it may be that all Republicans are not so intellectual, perhaps some merely inherited their love for less government from their betters. Therefore here is the original post, (#271) to which you had a courteously supplied link to in the post to which you responded without checking it all out for yourself, and so demanded more of my effort to do so for you. You could also have just click on my freerepublic name and see for yourself my home page, from there you could have clicked on the 'in forum' link to see any or all of my past posts. Is it no wonder that my response to you is obnoxious, at best?

Freerepublic has been inundated by those who are merely cheerleader followers.

Freerepublic's genesis was on a foundation of true researchers, independent analysis and very creative ideas.

Please do not try to bludgeon those who deal in nuances which you may not find immediately accessible. Give them the benefit of doubt and try to find out for your self what they are referring to. This is how anyone might improve themselves.

278 posted on 11/02/2008 1:03:47 AM PST by antonia ("Be the person your dog thinks you are....")
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To: floriduh voter
Diabolical! I wonder where he got this idea that Biden blurted out today??????

It is nothing new. Liberals have been doing this for decades right under our noses.

They gave federal dollars to universities, then forced institutions like VMI and the Citadel to accept female cadets.

They gave federal dollars to the states for roads, then forced the 55 mph speed limit on them.

This is a continuation of everything conservatives have been warning about for years.....get in bed with the federal gov't and end up taking orders from them.

279 posted on 11/02/2008 2:13:58 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: antonia

Does that mean NO ?,,,and no

I ain’t no Republican!!!

They left me at the border,,,!

FR is NOT! a Republican website!!!

Check with the Owner,,,

That was a yes or no question...


280 posted on 11/02/2008 2:16:05 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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