Posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater
A federal judge has ruled the University of California can deny course credit to Christian high school graduates who have been taught with textbooks that reject evolution and declare the Bible infallible, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles ruled Friday that the school's review committees did not discriminate against Christians because of religious viewpoints when it denied credit to those taught with certain religious textbooks, but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking and omitted important science and history topics.
Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, told the Chronicle that the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations."
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Zealots of any stripe are dangerous. You’re one of them.
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So!??.... To atheistic Secular Humanists a “zealot” is a person who defends the Constitution exactly as written and free markets.
What do atheistic Secular Humanists call those who work to destroy the Constitution and have a government controlled communist economy? Do atheistic Secular Humanists call these people “good and rational” patriots?
Wow!
Why should I side with you if you're no better than they are?
No I am not. I am completely focuses on the abortion rate for girls in India and their higher death rates after birth.
India is an example of advanced civilization? I don't think so. It is a cruel nation that starves, neglects and withholds medicine from a girl babies, and in general, as a society, they evidently do not believe that every human is equal before God.
As for the abortion rate in the U.S. I do wonder. What is the rate of abortion among believe and active Christians? Is it the non-churched that are having the abortions? If so then the solution is to win the hearts and minds of their Secular Humanists over to Christ.
And..I did admit that it does not bode well for the U.S. now or in the future.
There is one bright spot. Christians have more kids. Christian consider it a grave and mortal sin to abort a child, and the Secular Humanists abort their kids and have very few when they do let them be born.
Demographics are on the side of righteousness! :-)
Wow! I souled be more careful proof reading!
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Hmmm,... they allow course credit for math and English that the kids haven’t mastered to the point of offering remedial math and writing courses to make up for what the kids didn’t learn in high school.
And they’re having a cow over evolution, which is not likely to be adequately mastered even in schools where it alone is taught? Seems like an agenda to me.
I’d be interested in knowing what *religious* textbooks they’re referring to. Abeka rejects evolution but teaches it well enough that any kid using that textbook can pass that part of the NYS Regents exam. They do what the evos won’t; teach the controversy and point out why they think it’s wrong.
There doesn't seem to be any information provided about which text books were used, or exactly what these kids were taught.
There's no shortage of assumptions.
It is an agenda.
If the government atheist Secular Humanists can control the content of **this** course then they can control the content of other courses. If the government university can dictate to this Christian school what will be given credit, they can certainly do this to **any** private or home school.
What these government atheists want is mind control over other people's children!
Also...Historically, I bet the graduates of this Christian school have done **wonderfully** well in UC colleges and universities. I also bet that there are thousands of graduates of the atheistic government schools sitting in remedial courses because they can not read!
If California can get away with this, then government universities in states across the nation willl also start their mind control program by dictating to private and home schools what will and will not be given the government imprimatur of so-called “credit”.
This case should be a dead canary in the mine shaft for all privately and home schooled kids.
This case should also be a dead canary in the mine shaft for all Christians! The atheistic Secular Humanist are now flexing their government muscle and plan to make getting an education or a job very hard for anyone admitting to being a Christian.
Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, told the Chronicle that the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations."..."except for Moslem students. They're granted credits immediately. You see, it's all about diversity, something I've sworn to uphold."
Nice try. The issue is academic credit for non-academic subjects, and in fact anti-academic and anti-science subjects.
Do you also want to give credit for snake handling? That might fit into zoology.
How about dancing and shaking the rattles? That might fit into the music curriculum somewhere.
I'm not sure where magic would fit. Performing arts?
But speaking in tongues, now that has to fit into linguistics somehow!
That is probably a correct figure for "Brahamans" but they are a small portion of the population. They of course do not consider their "untouchables" as fully human, so they disregard them, and do nothing for them. Untouchables usually don't even have birth nor death certificates, since they are not sufficiently 'evolved.'
Think about it.
'Natural selection' is an artifact of existing biological systems.
To believe that 'natural selection' created those biological systems is a critical-thinking error called 'circular reasoning'.
How ‘bout coursework in the suppositions of ‘Global Warming’ or maybe ‘Multiculturalism’ or better yet, ‘Diversity.’
Public schools are loaded with dung in their curricula, too. Where is the outrage?
If a student is equally versed in the theories behind evolutionary thought and ID, it should be the factual biological information and competence with lab techniques that should guide accrediting philosophies.
Other than that, they can shove it.
The issue is whether the philosophy of naturalism will prevail as secular belief. 'Anti-academic' and 'anti-science' are merely code words for those who do not hold to the philosophy of naturalism.
"Do you also want to give credit for snake handling? That might fit into zoology."
How about believing that animal carcasses spontaneously generate maggots or that garbage dumps spontaneously generate rats? Better to move the goalposts back into to the unobservable where biological systems, phyla, orders, families, etc just 'appeared' out of the mists of time.
It's not an argument of philosophy vs empiricism and Coyoteman know this. He chooses to misrepresent the argument because he wants his own personal philosophical choice to prevail.
You know, for the small minority of kids who will ever need any evolutionary background for their degree, the college, no doubt, offers courses that will fill that in at a much more in depth treatment than it ever got in high school. So if they’re missing something, it will be covered.
I can’t see the sense in penalizing kids who are going for degree programs where anything like science, much less evolution, is not required or even relevant; except for the obvious strong arm tactics that are being resorted to since the attempted stranglehold on the public school system isn’t working because it is still missing kids who can escape it.
If the college wants to be like that, well, there’s plenty of other good, big name colleges to give their business to.
the professors are getting tired of getting challenged in class...their brainwashing isn’t working...the truth of creation shines above the myth of chance....
thx for posting...
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