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Dinosaurs Diversified Over Time, Not Suddenly (Wouldn't ALL fossil fuel contain DNA?)
Discovery.com ^ | 7/23/08

Posted on 08/02/2008 11:40:34 PM PDT by Libloather

Dinosaurs Diversified Over Time, Not Suddenly
Many Species, Many, Many Years
July 23, 2008

The belief that dinosaurs underwent explosive species diversification just before they were wiped out is an illusion, for the beasts' main evolutionary shifts took place millions of years before, a study says.

The strange demise of the dinosaurs at the end of the Cretaceous era some 65 million years ago has given rise to a popular view that almost has the tinge of Greek tragedy.

Just as the rulers of the Earth had reached their evolutionary zenith, a catastrophic event -- possibly a space rock that slammed into Earth -- brought the curtain down on their long reign.

Scientific support for this view comes the number of dinosaur fossils dating from a period called the Cretaceous Terrestrial Revolution, between 125 million to 80 million years ago, when Earth's book of life was changed forever.

During this epoch of riotous biodiversity, flowering plants, social insects, butterflies, modern groups of lizards, mammals, and possibly birds, too, all emerged.

Some experts have suggested that dinosaurs were also part of the show, as so many weird fossils, such as duckbilled hadrosaurs, horned ceratopsians, pachycephalosaurs and other wonders, date from this time.

But a new study, published on Wednesday in a British journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B, says that dinosaurs were less than a sideshow in the DNA spectacular.

Researchers led by Graeme Lloyd of the University of Bristol, western England, devised a "supertree" of dinosaur evolution, patiently analyzing how more than 450 species -- about 70 percent of the known finds -- developed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; dinosaurs; dna; evolution; fossil; fossilfuel; fuel; godsgravesglyphs; scaretactics
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I do listen to leftist, moonbat radio at times. One sound bite from some RAT goon proclaims oil comes from dinosaur poop. POOP? Enough to provide trillions of gallons of crude? Doesn't seem likely.

My semi-educated guess - the planet manufactures oil - and always will - period.

Just who started this 'fossil' fuel rumor in the first place?

1 posted on 08/02/2008 11:40:35 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Why don’t you leave off with the headline commentary?


2 posted on 08/02/2008 11:44:42 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Libloather

Semi-educated guess followed by “period.” LOL.


3 posted on 08/02/2008 11:46:29 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso
Why don’t you leave off with the headline commentary?

I would understand that more if I could.

What do you mean?

4 posted on 08/02/2008 11:51:10 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

1757, Mikhail Lomonossov (Gawd I love the Internet)


5 posted on 08/02/2008 11:51:31 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: Libloather

Fossil fuel is just a theory.

I heard the rumor started because fossil remains happened to be mixed with oil, so that’s why some jumped to the conclusion that the oil is “fossil fuel.”


6 posted on 08/02/2008 11:51:41 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Libloather

How did dinosaurs get at the bottom of the North Sea?


7 posted on 08/02/2008 11:53:06 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: REDWOOD99
How did dinosaurs get at the bottom of the North Sea?

Those would be polar dinosaurs. Get with the times...

8 posted on 08/02/2008 11:55:51 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: REDWOOD99
How did dinosaurs get at the bottom of the North Sea?

They sunk.

9 posted on 08/03/2008 12:01:12 AM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: Libloather
Fossil fuels don't derive from any dinosaur “by-product.” Petroleum and coal deposits are the remains of ancient forests that had already disappeared nearly a hundred million years before the first dinosaurs.
10 posted on 08/03/2008 12:03:13 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Golly! That would mean fossil fuels are...um...RENEWABLE?


11 posted on 08/03/2008 12:07:08 AM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: All

An oil guy was saying he thought that oil is abiotic & produced deeply in intense heat & pressure areas where friction & pressure break down carbon elements & turn it into gas, and it works it’s way up, cools and congeals and is OIL.


12 posted on 08/03/2008 12:08:47 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mojito; Liz; writer33; AT7Saluki
Petroleum and coal deposits are the remains of ancient forests that had already disappeared nearly a hundred million years before the first dinosaurs.

I think that kinda makes the point. Tree fossil remains are the bedrock for future finds? I dunno.

If only we could make oil out of past and present editions of the NY Times...

13 posted on 08/03/2008 12:21:57 AM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Sun
An oil guy was saying he thought that oil is abiotic & produced deeply in intense heat & pressure areas where friction & pressure break down carbon elements & turn it into gas, and it works it’s way up, cools and congeals and is OIL.

An oil guy THOUGHT? Apparently, he doesn't know.

The earth's core temp is estimated at around 5000 to 7000 degrees Celsius. Some say 9000 degrees. (Talk about global warming - eh?) No chemical reactions take place at those temps? Kinda hard to believe...

14 posted on 08/03/2008 12:29:16 AM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

Try this. It is science, and refutes your notion of inorganic origins of commercial hydrocarbon deposits.

http://www.geotimes.org/nov02/NN_oil.html


15 posted on 08/03/2008 12:29:59 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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...refutes your notion of inorganic origins of commercial hydrocarbon deposits.

Geoscientists are cringing as news reports dredge up what they have long considered a preposterous assertion about the origin of oil: that none of the fossil fuels found on this planet come from fossils.

Refutes - or confirms?

16 posted on 08/03/2008 12:40:20 AM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: mojito

Coal is believed to have come from decomposed primeval swamp forests of giant mosses and ferns from the time of the early dinosaurs. Oil OTOH comes from plankton of ancient oceans.

http://www.bbg.org/gar2/pgn/2003su_fossilfuels.html


17 posted on 08/03/2008 12:40:48 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: REDWOOD99
Golly! That would mean fossil fuels are...um...RENEWABLE?

Yeah, if you want to wait hundreds of millions of years...or else God decides to make it all come back in a >poof!< again.

But like groundwater, if you take it out faster than it's being generated, then of course you're going to run out.

18 posted on 08/03/2008 12:40:59 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Libloather

Did you read the article, or just paste the part about geoscientists cringing at news reports that are wrong (causing people like you to believe things that are wrong)?


19 posted on 08/03/2008 12:43:44 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Sun
“Fossil” has several meanings, including “of a past epoch.” In that sense, oil is a “fossil fuel” even if not from dinosaurs. Similarly, the deep aquifers of the American prairie are sometimes referred to as holding “fossil water,” meaning that the aquifers were filled long ago with little current replacement.

The larger point is that even if the abiotic oil theory is true — and it almost certainly is to some degree — it does not mean that oil fields will be replenished at a rate that is economically meaningful for us today. Once we find and deplete every economically useful oil field on earth, it will take a long time before oil reappears in meaningful quantities through abiotic processes.

In the meantime, we will need other energy sources. The best approach is to drill and dig so as to extend the fossil fuel era as long as possible. At the same time, we must develop other energy sources: solar; geothermal; hydro; tidal; ocean thermal; nuclear; biomass; biofuel; etc.

The Democrats are fools for thinking that finding and adopting economically useful successors for oil and coal will be easy or cheap. In disputing that folly, we should not let ourselves become fools as well by thinking that abiotic oil processes make such successors unnecessary.

20 posted on 08/03/2008 12:47:56 AM PDT by Rockingham
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