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*LIVE THREAD* DC vs Heller decision due at 10:00 EST (2nd Amendment)
SCOTUS Blog ^ | 6-26-08 | shameless vanity

Posted on 06/26/2008 3:55:39 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat

Today is the day.

The folks at SCOTUS blog will be providing a live blog to follow developments as quickly as possible.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; bitter; elections; heller; judiciary; scalia; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: patton

I’m not arguing the legalities. I am simply saying that Borchardt, Mauser and Browning are generally creditted with the development of semiautomatics.


801 posted on 06/26/2008 9:55:52 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: RockinRight
Interestingly, DU is treating this positively so far...has hell frozen over?

I haven't gone over there to read anything (today is a happy day that I don't want to spoil, and I have, like, work to do at some point), BUT I would suspect that their "reasoning" is something along the following lines:

"Thank Gaia and her chief channeler ALGOR: now our right to buy an icky, fully automatic sniper rifle bullet hose killing machine is intact, and we'll be able to prevent Bushitler's fascist storm troopers from dragging us away to a torture cell in Gitmo for jaywalking or spitting on the sidewalk."

C'mon, its DU - that's about the upper limit on reasoning for them.

802 posted on 06/26/2008 9:56:01 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: SeaHawkFan
In a number of states, legislatures have passed laws barring t he possession of firearms by men (mostly) who have been convicted of even the slightest form of domestic violence

You're referring to the Lautenburg Act, which is a FEDERAL law that prohibits the possession of firearms by anyone who was ever convicted of a domestic violence crime. Hundreds, probably thousands, of policemen have been forced out of their jobs by this law, not to mention many thousands more men who are also unjustly prohibited due to plea bargained convictions. This decision could have been used to overturn that federal law if not for the section which I mentioned in a previous post to you.

803 posted on 06/26/2008 9:56:24 AM PDT by epow (The question is not "Is God on America's side." but "Is America on God's side?")
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To: Dead Corpse
Worrysome. But about what we expected. Notable that they are silent on OPEN carry...

They probably had to compromise to some degree to get Kennedy on board to make it a majority decision. It's a victory for now, and we're better than we were

804 posted on 06/26/2008 9:57:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: kevkrom

***Essentially, it did not address the registration issue....***

Presuming I grant your reading, it is a slippery slope and one that will be hard to climb. Liberals are professional cheats. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.


805 posted on 06/26/2008 9:59:14 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Frank Sheed
I recall Nino actually saying that mammoth decisions “should be” by a 5-4 majority. He actually believes that.

If you consider the likely logic, it makes sense. I'll speculate and say that the basis for his statement is that if it were a slam dunk (7-2 or better), then it shouldn't even get Certiorari because the lower court would've gotten the right answer.

806 posted on 06/26/2008 9:59:50 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: kevkrom
"Unlike Senator Obama, who refused to join me in signing a bipartisan amicus brief, I was pleased to express my support and call for the ruling issued today. Today's ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller makes clear that other municipalities like Chicago that have banned handguns have infringed on the constitutional rights of Americans. Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns out of bitterness, today's ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a fundamental right- sacred, just as the right to free speech and assembly."

Talk about a verbal b*tch slap! I'm only choosing McCain to fight Obama and win the war on terror, but there are times, like this one, when I actually kinda like the guy.

807 posted on 06/26/2008 10:00:26 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: patton
So his assertion that “semi-automatic handguns are still illegal” must be challenged.

Fenty would probably have his brain go into vapor lock if he ever saw the video of a contest where the .45 revolver was fired faster than the .45 semi-auto.

808 posted on 06/26/2008 10:01:25 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: San Jacinto
Okay. I’ll try to learn to trust Obama as you suggest.

We're talking about politicians. The word "trust" does not apply.

809 posted on 06/26/2008 10:01:59 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: fzx12345
The scope of this appears limited to home possession...will this change the status quo on concealed carry?

In Chicago and New York, the restrictions on home possession mean that there is no CCW constituency.

If this results in Illinois and New York restrictions on ownership in the home, with the result that many people become gun owners, then there will be a constituency to agitate for "shall issue" CCW

810 posted on 06/26/2008 10:03:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: kevkrom

Thanks KevKrom. I haven’t read all the way through it yet. I appreciate your take on it.


811 posted on 06/26/2008 10:04:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: Prokopton

This brings up a very good point. If the Republicans want to win back Congress and hold the White House, they better get on the ball and do something to get the average gun owner out to vote. They have a golden opportunity here but I’m betting they’ll chicken-poop out and let it pass them by.

Mike


812 posted on 06/26/2008 10:04:31 AM PDT by BCR #226 (The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: TonyInOhio
This is why I'm voting for McCain. Imagine the type of person Barry would nominate to join the Leftist Four on the Court!

We don't need imagination, Barry has already told us.

Barack Hussein Obama, says of his nominees, “We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old and that’s the criteria by which I’ll be selecting my judges.”

John McCain says of his nominees, “The duties and boundaries of the Constitution are not just a set of helpful suggestions. They are not just guidelines to be observed when it’s convenient and loosely interpreted when it isn’t. In federal and state courts there are still men and women who understand the proper role of our judiciary and I intend to find them and promote them. My nominees will understand that there are clear limits to the scope of judicial power.”  

 

813 posted on 06/26/2008 10:04:31 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: N. Theknow

LOL - probably.


814 posted on 06/26/2008 10:04:42 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: djf

Which is good. I like that also.


815 posted on 06/26/2008 10:05:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: Lord_Calvinus
Presuming I grant your reading, it is a slippery slope and one that will be hard to climb.

My reading is that Scalia went out of his way to point out that Heller didn't challenge the registration requirement; in other words, he explicitly put in the opinion that the question was not germane to the case at hand.

Several of his comments toward the end of the opinion seem to be laying out a "road map" of what challenges should be made to expand upon the Heller decision (the limits of "reasonable" regulation, the incorporation issue, and the issue of registration requirements).

816 posted on 06/26/2008 10:05:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: dbacks
I am so glad you can make such ‘grand pronouncements’ with no basis. You are dead wrong.

Feel better about yourself now?

BTW, it wasn't a "grand pronouncement". It was a guess.

817 posted on 06/26/2008 10:06:18 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: patton
Watch this!

6 shots - reload - 6 more shots in less than 3 seconds!

818 posted on 06/26/2008 10:06:49 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: All

819 posted on 06/26/2008 10:07:35 AM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Bump Meek!


820 posted on 06/26/2008 10:10:44 AM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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